On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Leigh Porter
leigh.por...@ukbroadband.com wrote:
...
IPv6 only hosts are a good thing to speed up v6 adoption. Nothing like a good
carrot to get the donkeys moving.
--
Leigh
Well, speaking of carrots...a few years back we _did_ have
From: Jeff Wheeler
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 8:13 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an
IPv6naysayer...)
I suspect Google, Microsoft, and others have already figured out a
beneficial (to everyone) way to monetize this. If I'm
Given that virtually all of the popular applications are ignorant of
the underlying infrastructure I don't see this happening. Its simply
too expensive to build something and not get it in front of as many
eyeballs as possible even (perhaps especially) if your application is
free (ad
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 10:14:04AM -0800, George Bonser wrote:
From: Jeff Wheeler
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 8:13 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an
IPv6naysayer...)
I suspect Google, Microsoft, and others have already
You never been told something like We don't do (or stock) that
because
there's no demand for it! You know, you're the Nth person to ask about
it
today. I have, and many more times than merely once.
--
Mike Andrews, W5EGO
mi...@mikea.ath.cx
Tired old sysadmin
Right, so what it takes is
http://www.jetcafe.org/~npc/isp/large.html
If you take the 5 top US ISPs and get them to do dual stack IPv6, that's 50
million subscribers in the US only.
I think google and others will notice some serious traffic happening.
It took a market share of 10 to 20% of Mozilla for web developers to
On 2/18/2011 1:53 PM, Franck Martin wrote:
http://www.jetcafe.org/~npc/isp/large.html
If you take the 5 top US ISPs and get them to do dual stack IPv6, that's 50
million subscribers in the US only.
I think google and others will notice some serious traffic happening.
We're years from the
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 10:42 AM, George Bonser gbon...@seven.com wrote:
You never been told something like We don't do (or stock) that
because
there's no demand for it! You know, you're the Nth person to ask about
it
today. I have, and many more times than merely once.
--
Mike Andrews,
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 1:14 PM, George Bonser gbon...@seven.com wrote:
One thing they can do, and I would live to see some popular destination
site do this, is to say something like:
we have this really cool new thing we are rolling out but, sorry, it is
available only via IPv6 or we will
- Original Message -
From: Scott Helms khe...@ispalliance.net
To: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Saturday, 19 February, 2011 8:07:54 AM
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an
IPv6naysayer...)
On 2/18/2011 1:53 PM, Franck Martin wrote:
http://www.jetcafe.org/~npc
On Feb 18, 2011, at 10:14 AM, George Bonser wrote:
From: Jeff Wheeler
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 8:13 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an
IPv6naysayer...)
I suspect Google, Microsoft, and others have already figured out
You can't get yourself an IPv6 Sage certification if you aren't running
IPv6.
http://tunnelbroker.net
Owen
On Feb 18, 2011, at 10:42 AM, George Bonser wrote:
You never been told something like We don't do (or stock) that
because
there's no demand for it! You know, you're the Nth person to
On Feb 18, 2011, at 10:53 AM, Franck Martin wrote:
http://www.jetcafe.org/~npc/isp/large.html
If you take the 5 top US ISPs and get them to do dual stack IPv6, that's 50
million subscribers in the US only.
I think google and others will notice some serious traffic happening.
Google
On Feb 18, 2011, at 11:07 AM, Scott Helms wrote:
On 2/18/2011 1:53 PM, Franck Martin wrote:
http://www.jetcafe.org/~npc/isp/large.html
If you take the 5 top US ISPs and get them to do dual stack IPv6, that's 50
million subscribers in the US only.
I think google and others will notice
On 18 Feb 2011, at 20:55, Zed Usser zzu...@yahoo.com wrote:
--- On Sat, 2/19/11, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote:
You only need to solve those problems to the
extent that there are meaningful things still
trapped in an IPv4-only world.
Are you willing to bet that IPv4 address exhaustion
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 12:07, Scott Helms khe...@ispalliance.net wrote:
We don't have a situation where the existing infrastructure doesn't work, it
does.
It does today. IPv4 addresses are still freely available today though.
As soon as we introduce LSN, the infrastructure starts to stop
In message efd65ff5-12c8-49be-8243-f081949a5...@genius.com, Franck Martin wri
tes:
http://www.jetcafe.org/~npc/isp/large.html
If you take the 5 top US ISPs and get them to do dual stack IPv6, that's 50 m
=
illion subscribers in the US only.
I think google and others will notice some
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