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2015-07-02 Thread Barry Shein
UUCP. Someone had to mention it. So I did. And BITNET I guess. -- -Barry Shein The World | b...@theworld.com | http://www.TheWorld.com Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: 800-THE-WRLD| Dial-Up: US, PR, Canada Software Tool Die| Public Access Internet

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2015-06-30 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Tue, 30 Jun 2015, Ricky Beam wrote: The death of Novell NetWare (and their transitioned to IP) killed it the enterprise. Games adopting IP for network play killed it in the home. Ultimately, it sucks as a WAN protocol, so the internet was built using this new fangled IP thing. There are

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2015-06-30 Thread Stephen Satchell
On 06/30/2015 07:28 AM, Justin M. Streiner wrote: There are still isolated pockets of devices out there speaking IPX, DECnet, Appletalk, etc, but either they're not connected to the 'Internet', or their traffic passes through other devices that encapsulate and de-encapsulate it in IP to allow it

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2015-06-30 Thread Owen DeLong
On Jun 30, 2015, at 10:03 , Stephen Satchell l...@satchell.net wrote: On 06/30/2015 07:28 AM, Justin M. Streiner wrote: There are still isolated pockets of devices out there speaking IPX, DECnet, Appletalk, etc, but either they're not connected to the 'Internet', or their traffic passes

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2015-06-30 Thread Ricky Beam
On Tue, 30 Jun 2015 10:28:13 -0400, Justin M. Streiner strei...@cluebyfour.org wrote: There are still isolated pockets of devices out there speaking IPX, DECnet, Appletalk, etc Indeed. I'm one of them. (rarely) ... IPX managed print server. It speaks IP, but cannot be managed by IP. I'd

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2015-06-30 Thread james machado
On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Ricky Beam jfb...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 30 Jun 2015 10:28:13 -0400, Justin M. Streiner strei...@cluebyfour.org wrote: There are still isolated pockets of devices out there speaking IPX, DECnet, Appletalk, etc Indeed. I'm one of them. (rarely) ... IPX

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2015-06-29 Thread Javier Henderson
On Jun 29, 2015, at 8:42 AM, Stephen Satchell l...@satchell.net wrote: On 06/29/2015 01:16 AM, a.l.m.bu...@lboro.ac.uk wrote: Hi, I knew several people who built their career path on the assumptions of IPX. Ouch. or DECnet ;-) Or XNS. On the other hand, people did have a

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2015-06-29 Thread Jared Mauch
On Jun 27, 2015, at 2:45 PM, frnk...@iname.com frnk...@iname.com wrote: What's the ratio of mobile (cellular) endpoints to non-mobile devices? And we know that mobile continues to grow faster than fixed endpoints -- at what point will the scales naturally tip to IPv6? this is why i’m very

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2015-06-29 Thread Stephen Satchell
On 06/29/2015 01:16 AM, a.l.m.bu...@lboro.ac.uk wrote: Hi, I knew several people who built their career path on the assumptions of IPX. Ouch. or DECnet ;-) Or XNS. On the other hand, people did have a nice career with SNA...but they weren't trying to push packets over the

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2015-06-29 Thread Larry Sheldon
On 6/29/2015 11:07, Bob Evans wrote: It would not surprise me to find ARCnet (Datapoint's) still running in some corner somewhere. I would not be surprised to learn that the University that fired me for being too old still has one. -- sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes? (Juvenal)

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2015-06-29 Thread Gary Buhrmaster
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 4:07 PM, Bob Evans b...@fiberinternetcenter.com wrote: It would not surprise me to find ARCnet (Datapoint's) still running in some corner somewhere. Possibly next to the system running Banyan VINES.

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2015-06-29 Thread Bob Evans
It would not surprise me to find ARCnet (Datapoint's) still running in some corner somewhere. Thank You Bob Evans CTO On Jun 29, 2015, at 8:42 AM, Stephen Satchell l...@satchell.net wrote: On 06/29/2015 01:16 AM, a.l.m.bu...@lboro.ac.uk wrote: Hi, I knew several people who built their

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2015-06-29 Thread Scott Whyte
On 6/29/15 20:17, Johnny Eriksson wrote: Javier Henderson jav...@kjsl.org wrote: Or XNS. On the other hand, people did have a nice career with SNA...but they weren't trying to push packets over the LAT .daytime Monday 29-Jun-2015 20:10:46 .pjob Job 3 at ODEN User BYGG [10,335]

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2015-06-29 Thread Johnny Eriksson
Javier Henderson jav...@kjsl.org wrote: Or XNS. On the other hand, people did have a nice career with SNA...but they weren't trying to push packets over the LAT .daytime Monday 29-Jun-2015 20:10:46 .pjob Job 3 at ODEN User BYGG [10,335] TTY4 .where tty4 LAT PC78(LATD for

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2015-06-29 Thread A . L . M . Buxey
Hi, I knew several people who built their career path on the assumptions of IPX. Ouch. or DECnet ;-) alan

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2015-06-29 Thread Rob Seastrom
Guarantee there's no BLISS-32 on Johnny's machine. The source to the LAT software he's talking to *may* be in BLISS-36. It's more likely in MACRO-10. -r (does this gray hair make me look old?) George Michaelson g...@algebras.org writes: Dec gave you the source on Microfiche. If you want to

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2015-06-29 Thread Ricky Beam
On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 23:58:27 -0400, William Astle l...@l-w.ca wrote: Like certain data centers attached to AS701 in Canada. Or their end customers all over the world. Of course, they're no different than most other carriers. At the time we moved into this office, TWC wasn't available

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2015-06-29 Thread Ricky Beam
On Sat, 27 Jun 2015 08:35:34 -0400, Rafael Possamai raf...@gav.ufsc.br wrote: How long do you think it will take to completely get rid of IPv4? Or is it even going to happen at all? Things like IPX and token-ring are still around. IPv4 isn't going anywhere for decades. (if ever) Mostly

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2015-06-29 Thread Ricky Beam
On Sat, 27 Jun 2015 13:23:27 -0400, Lyndon Nerenberg lyn...@orthanc.ca wrote: IPX ruled the roost, very popularly, for a little while. How long did it take to die? It isn't dead yet, but it's certainly on the endangered list. Why did it die? The death of Novell NetWare (and their

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2015-06-29 Thread George Michaelson
Dec gave you the source on Microfiche. If you want to change LAT just read, and find your Bliss32 compiler. On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 9:04 PM, Scott Whyte swh...@gmail.com wrote: On 6/29/15 20:17, Johnny Eriksson wrote: Javier Henderson jav...@kjsl.org wrote: Or XNS. On the other hand,

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2015-06-27 Thread Antonio Querubin
On Fri, 26 Jun 2015, Jay Ashworth wrote: And that's the ballgame. http://www.reddit.com/r/ipv6/comments/3b5p3i/arin_just_subdivided_their_last_1718192021_and_22/ Nah, probably two more days if you just do a straight line extrapolation based on today's data. So Tuesday or Wednesday is more

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2015-06-27 Thread Randy Bush
the rirs have run out of their free source of short ints to rent to us. i am sure everyone will move to ipv6 in a week. news at eleven. randy

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2015-06-27 Thread Matthew Kaufman
Except for AfriNIC And so we'll get to hear the sky is falling one last time Matthew Kaufman (Sent from my iPhone) On Jun 27, 2015, at 2:57 AM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: the rirs have run out of their free source of short ints to rent to us. i am sure everyone will move to ipv6 in

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2015-06-27 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Sat, 27 Jun 2015, Rafael Possamai wrote: How long do you think it will take to completely get rid of IPv4? Or is it even going to happen at all? I believe somewhere around 2018-2025 a lot of ISPs, hosting providers etc will start to treat IPv4 as a second rate citizen and for the people

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2015-06-27 Thread Rafael Possamai
Randy, How long do you think it will take to completely get rid of IPv4? Or is it even going to happen at all? On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 4:57 AM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: the rirs have run out of their free source of short ints to rent to us. i am sure everyone will move to ipv6 in a

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2015-06-27 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
On Jun 27, 2015, at 5:35 AM, Rafael Possamai raf...@gav.ufsc.br wrote: How long do you think it will take to completely get rid of IPv4? Or is it even going to happen at all? IPX ruled the roost, very popularly, for a little while. How long did it take to die? Why did it die? What were the

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2015-06-27 Thread Donald Eastlake
On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg lyn...@orthanc.ca wrote: On Jun 27, 2015, at 5:35 AM, Rafael Possamai raf...@gav.ufsc.br wrote: How long do you think it will take to completely get rid of IPv4? Or is it even going to happen at all? IPX ruled the roost, very popularly,

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2015-06-27 Thread jim deleskie
I'd give it another 20 yrs of v4, v6 addressing and all those letters are to hard for us old folk, we'll find ways to make it make it work :) On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 11:54 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson swm...@swm.pp.se wrote: On Sat, 27 Jun 2015, Rafael Possamai wrote: How long do you think it will

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2015-06-27 Thread Randy Bush
How long do you think it will take to completely get rid of IPv4? not in our lifetimes

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2015-06-27 Thread frnkblk
What's the ratio of mobile (cellular) endpoints to non-mobile devices? And we know that mobile continues to grow faster than fixed endpoints -- at what point will the scales naturally tip to IPv6? -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Mikael

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2015-06-26 Thread Jay Ashworth
And that's the ballgame. http://www.reddit.com/r/ipv6/comments/3b5p3i/arin_just_subdivided_their_last_1718192021_and_22/ -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

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2015-06-26 Thread tqr2813d376cjozqap1l
27. Jun 2015 03:06 by j...@baylink.com: And that's the ballgame. http://www.reddit.com/r/ipv6/comments/3b5p3i/arin_just_subdivided_their_last_1718192021_and_22 And here's to another eternity of shitty ISPs not implementing IPv6 because 'they have enough v4 already'.

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2015-06-26 Thread William Astle
On 15-06-26 09:47 PM, tqr2813d376cjozqa...@tutanota.com wrote: 27. Jun 2015 03:06 by j...@baylink.com: And that's the ballgame. http://www.reddit.com/r/ipv6/comments/3b5p3i/arin_just_subdivided_their_last_1718192021_and_22 And here's to another eternity of shitty ISPs not implementing IPv6