On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 5:09 PM, John Curran wrote:
> On 3 Oct 2016, at 4:06 PM, William Herrin wrote:
>> ARIN asserts they've taken no action because community developed
>> policy instructs them not to. That is a half-truth. The whole truth
>> is that ARIN has
On 3 Oct 2016, at 4:06 PM, William Herrin wrote:
> ...
> 3. In it's 20-year history, ARIN has taken no actions whatsoever
> against legacy address holders inconsistent with legacy address blocks
> being common law property, save this: ARIN has not consistently
> updated the
On Sun, Oct 2, 2016 at 6:18 PM, John Curran wrote:
> The agency with actual authority in these matters (NTIA)
> subsequently issued a
> statement of the the US Government’s Internet Protocol
> Numbering Principles,
> which noted that “the American Registry for Internet Numbers
>
That page is rather out of date as the RIPE policy it refers to was passed and
then modified to (somewhat) restore needs basis.
Owen
> On Sep 30, 2016, at 10:47 AM, Enno Rey wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 10:26:36AM -0700, Seth Mattinen wrote:
>> On 9/30/16 09:49,
On Mon, Oct 03, 2016 at 08:57:01AM -0700, Randy Bush wrote:
> fwiw, i did a transfer with the source in arin. i found arin's folk
> very very helpful, and the process navigable, even for someone who is
> administratively impaired such as i.
yep, i agree.
i recently was the source of a pile of
On Oct 3, 2016, at 11:49 AM, Randy Bush wrote:
>> The agency with actual authority in these matters (NTIA)
>
> inappropriate use of present tense
Yes, Randy - excellent point.
I should have included "at the time" in that sentence...
Thanks!
/John
fwiw, i did a transfer with the source in arin. i found arin's folk
very very helpful, and the process navigable, even for someone who is
administratively impaired such as i. ignore the political positioning,
plan ahead, be sure of all your options at each fork in the road, and
proceed with
> The agency with actual authority in these matters (NTIA)
inappropriate use of present tense
On 3 Oct 2016, at 3:57 AM, Martin Hannigan
> wrote:
...
Disclaimer: Get IPv6. Deploy it. Avoid cost. With that said…
Indeed: we are likely to have a rather convoluted market supply curve for
IPv4 blocks over the next decade, and those dependent on
On Sun, Oct 2, 2016 at 10:56 PM, John Curran wrote:
> On 30 Sep 2016, at 12:49 PM, Bryan Fields wrote:
>>
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>
>> I'm thinking of referring both parties to an experienced broker as well.
>
> That certainly works - there is a list of several
On 30 Sep 2016, at 1:34 PM, Bryan Fields wrote:
>
> On 9/30/16 1:22 PM, William Herrin wrote:
>> Note that you can't sell the block as an "owned asset" and have ARIN
>> recognize the change. ARIN does not recognize ownership of IP address
>> blocks, they only recognize
On 30 Sep 2016, at 1:42 PM, Jim Mercer wrote:
>
> On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 01:22:19PM -0400, William Herrin wrote:
>> 1. Buyer gets approved by ARIN for a specified transfer in the amount
>> to be purchased. Signs RSA.
>> 2. Legacy registrant (seller) signs the LRSA, proves
On 30 Sep 2016, at 1:47 PM, Enno Rey wrote:
> ...
> Note also there's voices recommending not to sign an RSA for legacy space (in
> certain situations, at least), see
> http://ipv4marketgroup.com/dont-sign-an-rsa-during-your-82-ipv4-transfer/.
Probably best to talk to a variety
On 30 Sep 2016, at 12:49 PM, Bryan Fields wrote:
>
> I'm trying to find a place on ARIN's website where this is addressed, but
> coming up short. I'm not the seller or buyer in this, but basically someone
> has a legacy block allocated by Postel and wants to sell the
But only the recipient must put them under an RSA in order to have them
registered. The source need not have an RSA or LRSA for their legacy
blocks, at least as I understand it.
I'd also suggest that having a broker is useful, because the few well-known
ones that exist are well-versed in the
On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 1:34 PM, Bryan Fields wrote:
> On 9/30/16 1:22 PM, William Herrin wrote:
>> Note that you can't sell the block as an "owned asset" and have ARIN
>> recognize the change. ARIN does not recognize ownership of IP address
>> blocks, they only recognize
On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 1:47 PM, Enno Rey wrote:
> Note also there's voices recommending not to sign an RSA for legacy space (in
> certain situations, at least), see
> http://ipv4marketgroup.com/dont-sign-an-rsa-during-your-82-ipv4-transfer/.
Hi Enno,
The article says:
"Never
Hi,
On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 10:26:36AM -0700, Seth Mattinen wrote:
> On 9/30/16 09:49, Bryan Fields wrote:
> > I'm trying to find a place on ARIN's website where this is addressed, but
> > coming up short. I'm not the seller or buyer in this, but basically someone
> > has a legacy block
On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 01:22:19PM -0400, William Herrin wrote:
> 1. Buyer gets approved by ARIN for a specified transfer in the amount
> to be purchased. Signs RSA.
> 2. Legacy registrant (seller) signs the LRSA, proves identity and
> authority to ARIN, places legacy block under the LRSA.
i
On 9/30/16 1:22 PM, William Herrin wrote:
> Note that you can't sell the block as an "owned asset" and have ARIN
> recognize the change. ARIN does not recognize ownership of IP address
> blocks, they only recognize registration and authorized agents.
This would seem to be in violation of what the
On 9/30/16 09:49, Bryan Fields wrote:
I'm trying to find a place on ARIN's website where this is addressed, but
coming up short. I'm not the seller or buyer in this, but basically someone
has a legacy block allocated by Postel and wants to sell the block as it's an
owned asset.
What's the
On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 12:49 PM, Bryan Fields wrote:
> I'm trying to find a place on ARIN's website where this is addressed, but
> coming up short. I'm not the seller or buyer in this, but basically someone
> has a legacy block allocated by Postel and wants to sell the
I would review this:
https://ripe72.ripe.net/presentations/65-160524.ripe-transfer.pdf
- Jared
> On Sep 30, 2016, at 12:49 PM, Bryan Fields wrote:
>
> I'm trying to find a place on ARIN's website where this is addressed, but
> coming up short. I'm not the seller or
I'm trying to find a place on ARIN's website where this is addressed, but
coming up short. I'm not the seller or buyer in this, but basically someone
has a legacy block allocated by Postel and wants to sell the block as it's an
owned asset.
What's the process to get ARIN to move the
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