Re: ATT Dry Pairs?

2010-10-01 Thread Owen DeLong
Try asking for one of the following: 1. Farmer Line 2. Alarm Circuit I think there are a few other ways to ask for a dry pair that might circumvent the limited know-how of the people you are talking to, but, I don't recall them off the top of my head. Owen On Sep 30,

Re: ATT Dry Pairs?

2010-10-01 Thread Curtis Maurand
I'd set up something wireless between them. Just my $0.02. --Curtis On 9/30/2010 4:52 PM, Brandon Galbraith wrote: Has anyone had any luck lately getting dry pairs from ATT? I'm in the Chicago area attempting to get a dry pair between two buildings (100ft apart) for some equipment, but when

Re: ATT Dry Pairs?

2010-10-01 Thread Andrew Carey
Or a (utility) telemetry circuit. None of these will necessarily get you a dry copper loop, depending on the facilities serving your two locations. Also the circuit length will undoubtedly be longer than 100ft so keep that in mind for whatever you're planning to do with it. You might also

RE: ATT Dry Pairs?

2010-10-01 Thread Scott Berkman
30, 2010 4:53 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: ATT Dry Pairs? Has anyone had any luck lately getting dry pairs from ATT? I'm in the Chicago area attempting to get a dry pair between two buildings (100ft apart) for some equipment, but when speaking to several folks at ATT the response I get is You

Followup and Thanks: ATT Dry Pairs?

2010-10-01 Thread Brandon Galbraith
I just wanted to follow up and say Thank You to everyone who responded to my email regarding getting an alarm line from ATT. I've made some headway once I reached someone with clue, and everyone was extremely helpful with the information they provided. -- Brandon Galbraith US Voice: 630.492.0464

ATT Dry Pairs?

2010-09-30 Thread Brandon Galbraith
Has anyone had any luck lately getting dry pairs from ATT? I'm in the Chicago area attempting to get a dry pair between two buildings (100ft apart) for some equipment, but when speaking to several folks at ATT the response I get is You want ATT service without the service? That's not logical!. Had

Re: ATT Dry Pairs?

2010-09-30 Thread Ryan Shea
Years ago I managed to get a dry pair from Verizon for some homebrew DSL, but there was some telco specific term for the dry pair, like series 7 alarm circuit or something. ATT may have their own term. -Ryan On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Brandon Galbraith brandon.galbra...@gmail.com wrote:

RE: ATT Dry Pairs?

2010-09-30 Thread George Bonser
-Original Message- From: Ryan Shea Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 2:21 PM To: Brandon Galbraith Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: ATT Dry Pairs? Years ago I managed to get a dry pair from Verizon for some homebrew DSL, but there was some telco specific term for the dry

Re: ATT Dry Pairs?

2010-09-30 Thread Robert Johnson
If your sales contact don't know what an alarm circuit is, go find ATT's tariff filed with your state's PUC. It will contain the name of the service. This will take some digging... Verizon Maryland calls this an Intraexchange local channel, regular voice grade and they go for $15.53/month. There

Re: ATT Dry Pairs?

2010-09-30 Thread Bret Clark
If the buildings are a 100ft apart, can't you just go with a wireless connection? Speeds would probably be better and no monthly fee! On 09/30/2010 06:08 PM, Robert Johnson wrote: If your sales contact don't know what an alarm circuit is, go find ATT's tariff filed with your state's PUC. It

Re: ATT Dry Pairs?

2010-09-30 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 9/30/2010 15:12, Bret Clark wrote: If the buildings are a 100ft apart, can't you just go with a wireless connection? Speeds would probably be better and no monthly fee! Wireless is not the end all solution for everything. ~Seth

Re: ATT Dry Pairs?

2010-09-30 Thread Jared Mauch
On Sep 30, 2010, at 6:30 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 9/30/2010 15:12, Bret Clark wrote: If the buildings are a 100ft apart, can't you just go with a wireless connection? Speeds would probably be better and no monthly fee! Wireless is not the end all solution for everything. Understood,

Re: ATT Dry Pairs?

2010-09-30 Thread Ricky Beam
On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 17:20:52 -0400, Ryan Shea ryans...@google.com wrote: ATT may have their own term. The industry standard term is UNE (unbundled network element.) However, the sales drones may not recognize that either. --Ricky

Re: ATT Dry Pairs?

2010-09-30 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 9/30/2010 15:34, Jared Mauch wrote: On Sep 30, 2010, at 6:30 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 9/30/2010 15:12, Bret Clark wrote: If the buildings are a 100ft apart, can't you just go with a wireless connection? Speeds would probably be better and no monthly fee! Wireless is not the end