of
actionable complaints.
--srs
From: Tom Beecher
Sent: Friday, August 6, 2021 11:42:48 PM
To: Suresh Ramasubramanian
Cc: Mike Hammett ; Matt Corallo ; NANOG
Subject: Re: Abuse Contact Handling
If you’re complaining about having to maintain an abuse desk
> you’re the sort of provider who doesn’t want to staff an abuse desk.
>
> --srs
> --
> *From:* NANOG on behalf of
> Mike Hammett
> *Sent:* Friday, August 6, 2021 7:51:04 PM
> *To:* Matt Corallo
> *Cc:* NANOG
> *Subject:* Re: Abuse Contact Handling
>
on behalf of Mike
Hammett
Sent: Friday, August 6, 2021 7:51:04 PM
To: Matt Corallo
Cc: NANOG
Subject: Re: Abuse Contact Handling
"we don’t get to tell someone they’re managing their network wrong"
Sure we do. They don't have to listen, but we get to tell them. RFCs are full
of thing
community.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest-IX
http://www.midwest-ix.com
- Original Message -
From: "Matt Corallo"
To: "Mike Hammett"
Cc: "NANOG"
Sent: Friday, August 6, 2021 8:50:00 AM
Subject: R
Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> Midwest-IX
> http://www.midwest-ix.com
>
> From: "Matt Corallo"
> To: "Mike Hammett" , "NANOG"
> Sent: Thursday, August 5, 2021 3:44:43 PM
> Subject: Re: Abuse
Is it even worth sending abuse reports anymore? Currently we just
block bad IPs at our network border and move on but we have seen quite
an uptick lately in attacks and probes from domestic IPs (US) on our
VoIP platforms.Our #1 offender is coming from Microsoft Azure IPs.
We have talked
rallo"
To: "Mike Hammett" , "NANOG"
Sent: Thursday, August 5, 2021 3:44:43 PM
Subject: Re: Abuse Contact Handling
There's a few old threads on this from last year or so, but while unmonitored
abuse contacts are terrible, similarly,
people have installed automated abuse
On Thu, 5 Aug 2021, Matt Corallo wrote:
Thus, lots of the large hosting providers have deemed the cost of
actually putting a human on an abuse contact is much too high.
it seems they have decided that ending up on DBL is their abuse
monitoring/reporting mechanism.
-Dan
> One thing I've been thinking for long time is to consider policy
> proposals to enforce the usage of the abuse mailbox together with
> X-ARF/RFC5965/RFC6650. That will automate probably a so big % of abuse
> handling that makes sense even if you need to make some programming,
> even if there are
One thing I've been thinking for long time is to consider policy proposals to
enforce the usage of the abuse mailbox together with X-ARF/RFC5965/RFC6650.
That will automate probably a so big % of abuse handling that makes sense even
if you need to make some programming, even if there are
There's a few old threads on this from last year or so, but while unmonitored abuse contacts are terrible, similarly,
people have installed automated abuse contact spammer systems which is equally terrible. Thus, lots of the large hosting
providers have deemed the cost of actually putting a
In several RIRs we addressed it via a policy, already implemented for some
years in APNIC (very useful results up to now), and recently implemented in
LACNIC:
AFRINIC
https://www.afrinic.net/policy/proposals/2018-gen-001-d7
APNIC
What does the greater operator community think of RIR abuse contacts that are
unmonitored autoresponders?
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest-IX
http://www.midwest-ix.com
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