Re: Alaska IXP?

2010-03-04 Thread Jared Mauch
On Mar 4, 2010, at 8:13 AM, Sean Donelan wrote: On Wed, 3 Mar 2010, Antonio Querubin wrote: On Wed, 3 Mar 2010, Sean Donelan wrote: Are there any common locations in Alaska where multiple local ISPs exchange traffic, either transit or peering? Or is Seattle the closest exchange point

RE: Alaska IXP?

2010-03-04 Thread Jay Hanke
On Mar 4, 2010, at 8:13 AM, Sean Donelan wrote: On Wed, 3 Mar 2010, Antonio Querubin wrote: On Wed, 3 Mar 2010, Sean Donelan wrote: Are there any common locations in Alaska where multiple local ISPs exchange traffic, either transit or peering? Or is Seattle the closest exchange point for

Re: Alaska IXP?

2010-03-04 Thread Andrew Hoyos
On 3/4/10 8:57 AM, Jay Hanke jha...@myclearwave.net wrote: snip We've seen the same issues in Minnesota. Locally referred to as the Chicago Problem. Adding on to point 3, there is also a lack of neutral facilities with a sufficient amount of traffic to justify the next carrier connecting. In

Re: Alaska IXP?

2010-03-04 Thread Joe Abley
On 2010-03-03, at 18:51, Bill Woodcock wrote: On Mar 3, 2010, at 3:13 PM, Sean Donelan wrote: Are there any common locations in Alaska where multiple local ISPs exchange traffic, either transit or peering? Or is Seattle the closest exchange point for Alaska ISPs? PCH doesn't know of

RE: Alaska IXP?

2010-03-04 Thread Jay Hanke
On 3/4/10 8:57 AM, Jay Hanke jha...@myclearwave.net wrote: snip We've seen the same issues in Minnesota. Locally referred to as the Chicago . Problem. Adding on to point 3, there is also a lack of neutral facilities with a sufficient amount of traffic to justify the next carrier connecting.

RE: Alaska IXP?

2010-03-04 Thread Aaron Wendel
Subject: RE: Alaska IXP? On 3/4/10 8:57 AM, Jay Hanke jha...@myclearwave.net wrote: snip We've seen the same issues in Minnesota. Locally referred to as the Chicago . Problem. Adding on to point 3, there is also a lack of neutral facilities with a sufficient amount of traffic to justify the next

Re: Alaska IXP?

2010-03-04 Thread Dale W. Carder
On Mar 4, 2010, at 10:33 AM, Jay Hanke wrote: From the looks of the link it looks like there is a bit of traction at the MadIX. One of the other interested carriers has talked to the University of MN and they showed some interest in participating. The trick is getting the first couple of

Re: Alaska IXP?

2010-03-04 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 10:41:38 CST, Aaron Wendel said: We have very similar issues in Kansas City. A couple years ago we set up a local exchange point but it's had issues gaining traction due to a lack of understanding more than anything else. In these smaller markets people have a hard time

Re: Alaska IXP?

2010-03-04 Thread Jared Mauch
On Mar 4, 2010, at 12:13 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 10:41:38 CST, Aaron Wendel said: We have very similar issues in Kansas City. A couple years ago we set up a local exchange point but it's had issues gaining traction due to a lack of understanding more than

Small IXP [was Alaska IXP?]

2010-03-04 Thread Jay Hanke
[snip] Does anybody have some numbers they're able to share? In the two small ISPs in the boonies scenario, *is* there enough cross traffic to make an interconnect worth it? (I'd expect that gaming/IM/email across town to a friend on The Other ISP would dominate here?) Or are both

Re: Alaska IXP?

2010-03-04 Thread Scott Howard
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Jared Mauch ja...@puck.nether.net wrote: Or at the cogent website ($4/meg) do the cost justify peering anymore? Personally I'd rather pay $10 for something that works, than $4 for something that doesn't sc...@zaphod:~$ telnet www.cogentco.com 80 Trying

Re: Alaska IXP?

2010-03-04 Thread Marty Anstey
Joe Abley wrote: On 2010-03-03, at 18:51, Bill Woodcock wrote: On Mar 3, 2010, at 3:13 PM, Sean Donelan wrote: Are there any common locations in Alaska where multiple local ISPs exchange traffic, either transit or peering? Or is Seattle the closest exchange point for Alaska

Alaska IXP?

2010-03-03 Thread Sean Donelan
Are there any common locations in Alaska where multiple local ISPs exchange traffic, either transit or peering? Or is Seattle the closest exchange point for Alaska ISPs?

Re: Alaska IXP?

2010-03-03 Thread Antonio Querubin
On Wed, 3 Mar 2010, Sean Donelan wrote: Are there any common locations in Alaska where multiple local ISPs exchange traffic, either transit or peering? Or is Seattle the closest exchange point for Alaska ISPs? peeringdb.com lists only SIX (in Seattle) and PAIX Seattle. Antonio Querubin

Re: Alaska IXP?

2010-03-03 Thread Bill Woodcock
On Mar 3, 2010, at 3:13 PM, Sean Donelan wrote: Are there any common locations in Alaska where multiple local ISPs exchange traffic, either transit or peering? Or is Seattle the closest exchange point for Alaska ISPs? PCH doesn't know of any. If any exist, we'd very much like to hear

Re: Alaska IXP?

2010-03-03 Thread Mr. James W. Laferriere
Hello All , On Wed, 3 Mar 2010, Bill Woodcock wrote: On Mar 3, 2010, at 3:13 PM, Sean Donelan wrote: Are there any common locations in Alaska where multiple local ISPs exchange traffic, either transit or peering? Or is Seattle the closest exchange point for Alaska ISPs? PCH