Re: Andros Island Connectivity?

2013-05-01 Thread Jim Mercer
On Wed, May 01, 2013 at 09:20:59AM -0400, Joe Abley wrote: > On 2013-05-01, at 01:23, joseph.sny...@gmail.com wrote: > > > Doesn't cable Bahamas sell in andros > > BaTelCo has five retail stores on Andros too, which suggests they offer some > kind of service there (whether wireline or wireless).

Re: Andros Island Connectivity?

2013-05-01 Thread Joe Abley
On 2013-05-01, at 01:23, joseph.sny...@gmail.com wrote: > Doesn't cable Bahamas sell in andros BaTelCo has five retail stores on Andros too, which suggests they offer some kind of service there (whether wireline or wireless). For a list whose subscribers have generally more experience on the g

Re: Andros Island Connectivity?

2013-04-30 Thread joseph . snyder
"Aaron C. de Bruyn" ,memb...@wispa.org >Cc: NANOG mailing list >Subject: Re: Andros Island Connectivity? > > >Aaron, > >Cross-posting this over to the WISPA list to see if there are any >Wireless >ISPs over there that can help you. > >-Mike > > >

Re: Andros Island Connectivity?

2013-04-30 Thread alejandroacostaalamo
Subject: Re: Andros Island Connectivity? Sent: Apr 30, 2013 8:43 PM Protracted discussion (and promotion) has glossed over one key point: >> None of the people on-site are technical, and all their data is accessed >> via RDP on a server in the United States. They will not be happy with

Re: Andros Island Connectivity?

2013-04-30 Thread Warren Bailey
The chicks certainly know my name.. Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device Original message From: Rob Seastrom Date: 04/30/2013 8:00 PM (GMT-08:00) To: Warren Bailey Cc: Joel M Snyder ,nanog@nanog.org,aa...@heyaaron.com Subject: Re: Andros Island Connectivity? Good &#x

Re: Andros Island Connectivity?

2013-04-30 Thread Rob Seastrom
Good 'ol Warren, sure knows how to make friends and influence people. -r Warren Bailey writes: > Put that in your pipe and smoke it, Seastrom! ;) > > On 4/30/13 7:02 PM, "Joel M Snyder" wrote: > >>> >>> Protracted discussion (and promotion) has glossed over one key point: >>> > None of t

Re: Andros Island Connectivity?

2013-04-30 Thread Warren Bailey
Put that in your pipe and smoke it, Seastrom! ;) On 4/30/13 7:02 PM, "Joel M Snyder" wrote: >> >> Protracted discussion (and promotion) has glossed over one key point: >> None of the people on-site are technical, and all their data is accessed via RDP on a server in the United Stat

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2013-04-30 Thread Rob Seastrom
Joel M Snyder writes: > Actually, Citrix (in particular) works quite well over satellite > latencies. The network project I'm working on right now is wrapping > up an app rollout to about 100 countries, many of which we can only > reach via VSAT. Testing showed that Citrix performance is much

Re: Andros Island Connectivity?

2013-04-30 Thread Joel M Snyder
Protracted discussion (and promotion) has glossed over one key point: None of the people on-site are technical, and all their data is accessed via RDP on a server in the United States. They will not be happy with VSAT latency (typically 700ms though physics says you can never do better than 5

Re: Andros Island Connectivity?

2013-04-30 Thread Ryan Wilkins
I've used them before on SCPC links. I discovered on a boat one time that the XipLink unit we were using wasn't exactly designed to handle vibrations from engines nor the constant pounding of a hull on water when in the ocean with large swells. Back then the boxes were 1U rackmount PCs running

Re: Andros Island Connectivity?

2013-04-30 Thread Warren Bailey
http://www.xiplink.com is who we work with (and sell). Don't mean to advertise on NANOG, more of an FYI and place for those who care to learn something. I hate the fact that satellite is looked at like a white unicorn, it's a pretty cool solution that will perform day in and out for as long as you

Re: Andros Island Connectivity?

2013-04-30 Thread Ryan Wilkins
I was going to mention this but failed to do so. At the very least, do some testing first to make sure that the latency isn't going to introduce unforeseen issues. Case in point, the Chicago satellite-based network that I manage is sometimes used for Police / Fire / EMS dispatching. The City'

Re: Andros Island Connectivity?

2013-04-30 Thread Warren Bailey
BuzKil!!! Actually, we use some TCP ninja techniques to make Citrix/RDP work. Basically, we ack the packets on both sides to prevent the delay from occurring. It's kind of like acceleration, except there aren't really any devices in between the session. There is a single box at the transmi

Re: Andros Island Connectivity?

2013-04-30 Thread Rob Seastrom
Protracted discussion (and promotion) has glossed over one key point: >> None of the people on-site are technical, and all their data is accessed >> via RDP on a server in the United States. They will not be happy with VSAT latency (typically 700ms though physics says you can never do better tha

Re: Andros Island Connectivity?

2013-04-30 Thread Warren Bailey
iling list Subject: Re: Andros Island Connectivity? If you need more than a megabit, don't forget to factor in the link budget and the resulting power and hardware requirements to support larger bandwidths. Then you're looking at something that is probably not available today on the island

Re: Andros Island Connectivity?

2013-04-30 Thread Ryan Wilkins
ssage >> From: Mike Hale >> Date: 04/30/2013 2:22 PM (GMT-08:00) >> To: Warren Bailey >> Cc: Mike Lyon ,"Aaron C. de Bruyn" >> ,memb...@wispa.org,NANOG mailing list >> Subject: Re: Andros Island Connectivity? >> >> >> Yea

Re: Andros Island Connectivity?

2013-04-30 Thread Warren Bailey
Or you could just use my networks? Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device Original message From: TR Shaw Date: 04/30/2013 2:45 PM (GMT-08:00) To: Warren Bailey Cc: Mike Hale ,"Aaron C. de Bruyn" ,memb...@wispa.org,NANOG mailing list Subject: Re: Andros Island Co

Re: Andros Island Connectivity?

2013-04-30 Thread TR Shaw
Bruyn" > ,memb...@wispa.org,NANOG mailing list > Subject: Re: Andros Island Connectivity? > > > Yeah, how many thousands is it per meg of space segment? > > On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Warren Bailey > wrote: >> Says.. Who? >> >> >> Sent

Re: Andros Island Connectivity?

2013-04-30 Thread Warren Bailey
ng list Subject: Re: Andros Island Connectivity? Bingo. And you're absolutely right in that setting it up can be really fast. But cheap? Not for a quality connection. On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Warren Bailey wrote: > Depends.. Space segment runs from 1300 a mhz for inclined a

Re: Andros Island Connectivity?

2013-04-30 Thread Mike Hale
" > ,memb...@wispa.org,NANOG mailing list > Subject: Re: Andros Island Connectivity? > > > Yeah, how many thousands is it per meg of space segment? > > On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Warren Bailey > wrote: >> Says.. Who? >> >> >> Sent from my

Re: Andros Island Connectivity?

2013-04-30 Thread Warren Bailey
: Warren Bailey Cc: Mike Lyon ,"Aaron C. de Bruyn" ,memb...@wispa.org,NANOG mailing list Subject: Re: Andros Island Connectivity? Yeah, how many thousands is it per meg of space segment? On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Warren Bailey wrote: > Says.. Who? > > > Sent f

Re: Andros Island Connectivity?

2013-04-30 Thread Warren Bailey
- From: Mike Hale Date: 04/30/2013 2:19 PM (GMT-08:00) To: Warren Bailey Cc: Mike Lyon ,"Aaron C. de Bruyn" ,memb...@wispa.org,NANOG mailing list Subject: Re: Andros Island Connectivity? It's the quickest but certainly not the cheapest. On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 1:56 PM,

Re: Andros Island Connectivity?

2013-04-30 Thread Mike Hale
:00) > To: Warren Bailey > Cc: Mike Lyon ,"Aaron C. de Bruyn" > ,memb...@wispa.org,NANOG mailing list > Subject: Re: Andros Island Connectivity? > > > It's the quickest but certainly not the cheapest. > > On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Warren

Re: Andros Island Connectivity?

2013-04-30 Thread Warren Bailey
Says.. Who? Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device Original message From: Mike Hale Date: 04/30/2013 2:19 PM (GMT-08:00) To: Warren Bailey Cc: Mike Lyon ,"Aaron C. de Bruyn" ,memb...@wispa.org,NANOG mailing list Subject: Re: Andros Island Connectivity? It'

Re: Andros Island Connectivity?

2013-04-30 Thread Mike Hale
> Date: 04/30/2013 1:35 PM (GMT-08:00) > To: "Aaron C. de Bruyn" ,memb...@wispa.org > Cc: NANOG mailing list > Subject: Re: Andros Island Connectivity? > > > Aaron, > > Cross-posting this over to the WISPA list to see if there are any Wireless > ISPs over th

Re: Andros Island Connectivity?

2013-04-30 Thread Warren Bailey
I suggested VSAT. Probably the quickest and cheapest. Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device Original message From: Mike Lyon Date: 04/30/2013 1:35 PM (GMT-08:00) To: "Aaron C. de Bruyn" ,memb...@wispa.org Cc: NANOG mailing list Subject: Re: Andros Island Co

Re: Andros Island Connectivity?

2013-04-30 Thread TR Shaw
Aaron are they supporting the range? If so there are options. On Apr 30, 2013, at 4:28 PM, Aaron C. de Bruyn wrote: > I just had a client drop an interesting requirement on me. > > They are on Andros Island (Bahamas) for about a year. I'm working on > getting an exact address from the adminisph

Re: Andros Island Connectivity?

2013-04-30 Thread Mike Lyon
Aaron, Cross-posting this over to the WISPA list to see if there are any Wireless ISPs over there that can help you. -Mike On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Aaron C. de Bruyn wrote: > I just had a client drop an interesting requirement on me. > > They are on Andros Island (Bahamas) for about a

Andros Island Connectivity?

2013-04-30 Thread Aaron C. de Bruyn
I just had a client drop an interesting requirement on me. They are on Andros Island (Bahamas) for about a year. I'm working on getting an exact address from the adminisphere above me, but all I've been told so far is they are 'near the naval base'. They just called and said "We need internet ac