Any computer, anywhere?

2013-12-08 Thread Warren Bailey
http://m.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/2013/12/06/352ba174-5397-11e3-9e2c-e1d01116fd98_story.html Noticed this tonight.. Not saying the WP is always on target, but what software could be installed via a browser on any computer to gather all of that data? And how would it be done

Re: Any computer, anywhere?

2013-12-08 Thread Tammy Firefly
The wording sounds like it was tied to his yahoo account Tammy Sent from my iPhone On Dec 8, 2013, at 1:24, Warren Bailey wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com wrote: http://m.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/2013/12/06/352ba174-5397-11e3-9e2c-e1d01116fd98_story.html Noticed this

Re: Any computer, anywhere?

2013-12-08 Thread Michael Brown

Re: Any computer, anywhere?

2013-12-08 Thread Lee
On 12/8/13, Warren Bailey wrote: http://m.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/2013/12/06/352ba174-5397-11e3-9e2c-e1d01116fd98_story.html Noticed this tonight.. Not saying the WP is always on target, but what software could be installed via a browser on any computer to gather all of that

RE: Any computer, anywhere?

2013-12-08 Thread Phil Bedard
of non-public Java exploits they sell to governments... Phil From: Warren Bailey Sent: 12/8/2013 3:26 To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Any computer, anywhere? http://m.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/2013/12/06/352ba174-5397-11e3-9e2c-e1d01116fd98_story.html Noticed this tonight.. Not saying the WP

Re: Any computer, anywhere?

2013-12-08 Thread David Hiers
will run sandboxed in newer browsers but Java afaik cannot. Almost all malware is delivered using them, one research company I read about has lists of non-public Java exploits they sell to governments... Phil From: Warren Bailey Sent: 12/8/2013 3:26 To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Any computer

Empty messages (was Re: Any computer, anywhere?)

2013-12-08 Thread Larry Sheldon
On 12/8/2013 8:13 AM, Michael Brown wrote: I've been getting several of these (empty messages) from different people and on different subjects but always on the NANOG list. Secret messages? Or is NSA sucking too hard? -- Requiescas in pace o email Two identifying

Re: Empty messages (was Re: Any computer, anywhere?)

2013-12-08 Thread ML
On 12/8/2013 4:59 PM, Larry Sheldon wrote: On 12/8/2013 8:13 AM, Michael Brown wrote: I've been getting several of these (empty messages) from different people and on different subjects but always on the NANOG list. Secret messages? Or is NSA sucking too hard? I confirm I've been seeing

Re: Empty messages (was Re: Any computer, anywhere?)

2013-12-08 Thread Jon Sands
Confirming I've also been receiving blank messages. Most recently Michael Browns email sent at 9:13am 12/8/13 -- Jon Sands

Re: Any computer, anywhere?

2013-12-08 Thread Michael Brown
On 13-12-08 03:24 AM, Warren Bailey wrote: http://m.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/2013/12/06/352ba174-5397-11e3-9e2c-e1d01116fd98_story.html Noticed this tonight.. Not saying the WP is always on target, but what software could be installed via a browser on any computer to gather all

Re: Empty messages (was Re: Any computer, anywhere?)

2013-12-08 Thread Michael Brown
On 13-12-08 04:59 PM, Larry Sheldon wrote: On 12/8/2013 8:13 AM, Michael Brown wrote: I've been getting several of these (empty messages) from different people and on different subjects but always on the NANOG list. Secret messages? Or is NSA sucking too hard? This I can solidly

Re: Any computer, anywhere?

2013-12-08 Thread /dev/ph0b0s
On 12/08, Warren Bailey wrote: http://m.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/2013/12/06/352ba174-5397-11e3-9e2c-e1d01116fd98_story.html Noticed this tonight.. Not saying the WP is always on target, but what software could be installed via a browser on any computer to gather all of that

Re: Any computer, anywhere?

2013-12-08 Thread Jimmy Hess
On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 2:24 AM, Warren Bailey wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com wrote: Noticed this tonight.. Not saying the WP is always on target, but what software could be installed via a browser on any computer to gather all of that data? And how would it be done without the OS

Re: Empty messages (was Re: Any computer, anywhere?)

2013-12-08 Thread Jorge Amodio
Same here, they are written with invisible bits, like invisible ink. You have to drop some special lemon juice on your email client to be able to see it. -Jorge On Dec 8, 2013, at 4:24 PM, ML m...@kenweb.org wrote: On 12/8/2013 4:59 PM, Larry Sheldon wrote: On 12/8/2013 8:13 AM, Michael

Re: Empty messages (was Re: Any computer, anywhere?)

2013-12-08 Thread Michael Brown
On 13-12-08 10:02 PM, Jorge Amodio wrote: Same here, they are written with invisible bits, like invisible ink. You have to drop some special lemon juice on your email client to be able to see it. Lemon juice as promised, to be applied prior to de-HTML-izing email: