Re: BGP and The zero window edge

2021-04-25 Thread Alarig Le Lay
On Thu 22 Apr 2021 01:24:54 GMT, Job Snijders via NANOG wrote: > One example is > http://lg.ring.nlnog.net/prefix_detail/lg01/ipv6?q=2a0b:6b86:d15::/48 > > 2a0b:6b86:d15::/48 via: > BGP.as_path: 204092 57199 35280 6939 42615 42615 212232 > BGP.as_path: 208627 207910 57199

Re: BGP and The zero window edge

2021-04-24 Thread Simon Leinen
Job Snijders via NANOG writes: > *RIGHT NOW* (at the moment of writing), there are a number of zombie > route visible in the IPv6 Default-Free Zone: [Reversing the order of your two examples] > Another one is > http://lg.ring.nlnog.net/prefix_detail/lg01/ipv6?q=2a0b:6b86:d24::/48 >

Re: BGP and The zero window edge

2021-04-22 Thread Alexandre Snarskii
On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 01:24:54AM +0200, Job Snijders via NANOG wrote: [...] > > Another one is > http://lg.ring.nlnog.net/prefix_detail/lg01/ipv6?q=2a0b:6b86:d24::/48 > > 2a0b:6b86:d24::/48 via: > BGP.as_path: 201701 9002 6939 42615 212232 > BGP.as_path: 34927 9002

Re: BGP and The zero window edge

2021-04-22 Thread Job Snijders via NANOG
On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 02:29:31PM +0300, Alexandre Snarskii wrote: > 9002. Hit by Juniper PR1562090, route stuck in DeletePending.. > Workaround applied, sessions with 6939 restarted, route is gone. Thank you for the details and clearing the issue. Kind regards, Job

Re: BGP and The zero window edge

2021-04-21 Thread Hank Nussbacher
On 22/04/2021 02:24, Job Snijders via NANOG wrote: On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 09:22:57PM +, Jakob Heitz (jheitz) wrote: I'd like to get some data on what actually happened in the real cases and analyze it. [snip] TCP zero window is possible, but many other things could cause it too.

RE: BGP and The zero window edge

2021-04-21 Thread Philip Loenneker
to the problem. -Original Message- From: NANOG On Behalf Of Job Snijders via NANOG Sent: Thursday, 22 April 2021 9:25 AM To: Jakob Heitz (jheitz) Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: BGP and The zero window edge On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 09:22:57PM +, Jakob Heitz (jheitz) wrote: > I'd l

Re: BGP and The zero window edge

2021-04-21 Thread Job Snijders via NANOG
On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 09:22:57PM +, Jakob Heitz (jheitz) wrote: > I'd like to get some data on what actually happened in the real cases > and analyze it. > > [snip] > > TCP zero window is possible, but many other things could > cause it too. Indeed. There could be a number of reasons that

Re: BGP and The zero window edge

2021-04-21 Thread Pawel Malachowski
Dnia Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 08:59:06PM +, Jakob Heitz (jheitz) via NANOG napisaƂ(a): > Has anyone else seen this before or can provide data to analyze? > On or off list. - https://labs.ripe.net/author/romain_fontugne/bgp-zombies/ - https://www.slideshare.net/atendesoftware/bgp-zombie-routes

RE: BGP and The zero window edge

2021-04-21 Thread Jakob Heitz (jheitz) via NANOG
understanding of what actually happened. TCP zero window is possible, but many other things could cause it too. Anyone? Regards, Jakob. -Original Message- From: Job Snijders Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2021 2:11 PM To: Jakob Heitz (jheitz) Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: BGP and The zero

Re: BGP and The zero window edge

2021-04-21 Thread Job Snijders via NANOG
Dear Jakob, group, On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 08:59:06PM +, Jakob Heitz (jheitz) via NANOG wrote: > Ben's blog details an experiment in which he advertises routes and then > withdraws them, but some of them remain stuck for days. > > I'd like to get to the bottom of this problem. I think there

RE: BGP and The zero window edge

2021-04-21 Thread Jakob Heitz (jheitz) via NANOG
Ben's blog details an experiment in which he advertises routes and then withdraws them, but some of them remain stuck for days. I'd like to get to the bottom of this problem. Has anyone else seen this before or can provide data to analyze? On or off list. Regards, Jakob. -Original

BGP and The zero window edge

2021-04-21 Thread Jean St-Laurent via NANOG
Nice article explaining a specific BGP corner case not removing routes when TCP window reaches 0. https://blog.benjojo.co.uk/post/bgp-stuck-routes-tcp-zero-window The proposed solution is a new RFC for BGP with the suggestion to introduce a new timer. Fascinating! Jean St-Laurent /CISSP