Re: BGP in the Washngton Post

2015-06-03 Thread Scott Weeks
--- larryshel...@cox.net wrote: From: Larry Sheldon On 6/2/2015 00:27, Scott Weeks wrote: > Great article for the WP and they asked good questions from > the correct people, but I have to take issue with the lack > of network operator's participation comments: > > : But getting network operator

Re: BGP in the Washngton Post

2015-06-03 Thread Larry Sheldon
On 6/2/2015 00:27, Scott Weeks wrote: Great article for the WP and they asked good questions from the correct people, but I have to take issue with the lack of network operator's participation comments: : But getting network operators to participate is proving : difficult. : Many network opera

Re: BGP in the Washngton Post

2015-06-03 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2015-06-02 21:51 -0700), Randy Bush wrote: > The RPKI is an X.509 based hierarchy [rfc 6481] which is congruent > with the internet IP address allocation administration, the IANA, Hijacking this thread. I've requested both our main vendors for 'loose rpki' years ago, nothing has happe

Re: BGP in the Washngton Post

2015-06-02 Thread Randy Bush
> Yes, RPKI protects from fat fingered people, but NOT protects from > people doing hijacks knowingly. the rpki protects from fat fingers as well as the telephone white pages protects from wrong number dialing. it doesn't. for the 312th time (i had to make this clear once again from the floor of

Re: BGP in the Washngton Post

2015-06-02 Thread Mark Andrews
In message <556c8ebc.7080...@netassist.ua>, Max Tulyev writes: > Is there *IN THEIORY* any possibility to make BGP secure enough now? > > Yes, RPKI protects from fat fingered people, but NOT protects from > people doing hijacks knowlingly. At the moment because not enough of the net is covered.

Re: BGP in the Washngton Post

2015-06-01 Thread Scott Weeks
--- b...@herrin.us wrote: From: William Herrin Interesting story about BGP and security in the Washington Post today: http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/business/2015/05/31/net-of-insecurity-part-2/ Great article for the WP and they asked good qu

Re: BGP in the Washngton Post

2015-06-01 Thread Max Tulyev
Is there *IN THEIORY* any possibility to make BGP secure enough now? Yes, RPKI protects from fat fingered people, but NOT protects from people doing hijacks knowlingly. The global routing registry really can be the solution, but it automatically gives one authority a power to cut off any network.

Re: BGP in the Washngton Post

2015-06-01 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 9:39 AM, Måns Nilsson wrote: > Subject: BGP in the Washngton Post Date: Mon, Jun 01, 2015 at 09:24:33AM > -0400 Quoting William Herrin (b...@herrin.us): >> Interesting story about BGP and security in the Washington Post today: >> >> http://w

Re: BGP in the Washngton Post

2015-06-01 Thread Ca By
On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 6:24 AM, William Herrin wrote: > Interesting story about BGP and security in the Washington Post today: > > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/business/2015/05/31/net-of-insecurity-part-2/ > > -Bill > > The article left me with the feeling that there was a secure version of

RE: BGP in the Washngton Post

2015-06-01 Thread Jeff Masiello
in the Washngton Post Interesting story about BGP and security in the Washington Post today: http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/business/2015/05/31/net-of-insecurity-part-2/ -Bill -- William Herrin her...@dirtside.com b...@herrin.us Owner, Dirtside Systems . Web: <h

Re: BGP in the Washngton Post

2015-06-01 Thread Måns Nilsson
Subject: BGP in the Washngton Post Date: Mon, Jun 01, 2015 at 09:24:33AM -0400 Quoting William Herrin (b...@herrin.us): > Interesting story about BGP and security in the Washington Post today: > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/business/2015/05/31/net-of-insecurity-part-2/

BGP in the Washngton Post

2015-06-01 Thread William Herrin
Interesting story about BGP and security in the Washington Post today: http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/business/2015/05/31/net-of-insecurity-part-2/ -Bill -- William Herrin her...@dirtside.com b...@herrin.us Owner, Dirtside Systems . Web: