Hi,
In late October 2018, DE-CIX announced that they would be renumbering their
IPv4 address block in New York between 01-28-19 and 01-30-19.
This was followed by numerous reminders in months, weeks and even days leading
up to the renumbering activity.
The renumbering activity has come and gon
On 1/30/19 7:52 AM, Jason Lixfeld wrote:
Hi,
In late October 2018, DE-CIX announced that they would be renumbering their
IPv4 address block in New York between 01-28-19 and 01-30-19.
This was followed by numerous reminders in months, weeks and even days leading
up to the renumbering activit
- Original Message -
From: "Jason Lixfeld"
To: "North American Network Operators' Group"
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 7:52:09 AM
Subject: Calling LinkedIn, Amazon and Akamai @ DE-CIX NY
Hi,
In late October 2018, DE-CIX announced that they would be renumbering
Pinged my contacts in each
On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 05:52 Jason Lixfeld wrote:
> Hi,
>
> In late October 2018, DE-CIX announced that they would be renumbering
> their IPv4 address block in New York between 01-28-19 and 01-30-19.
>
> This was followed by numerous reminders in months, weeks and eve
Akamai is working on doing our part. Apologies.
Sent from my iCar
> On Jan 30, 2019, at 12:02 PM, Mehmet Akcin wrote:
>
> Pinged my contacts in each
>
>> On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 05:52 Jason Lixfeld wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> In late October 2018, DE-CIX announced that they would be renumbering th
Microsoft an Edgecast has not yet made there changes.
On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 12:20 PM Jared Mauch wrote:
> Akamai is working on doing our part. Apologies.
>
> Sent from my iCar
>
> On Jan 30, 2019, at 12:02 PM, Mehmet Akcin wrote:
>
> Pinged my contacts in each
>
> On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 05:5
Operators' Group
Subject: Re: Calling LinkedIn, Amazon and Akamai @ DE-CIX NY
A lot of huge companies apparently find it tough to find the $75k to hire one
more peering person. Not all, though. For many, everything just runs like
clockwork.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
://lg.de-cix.net/routeservers/rs1_nyc_ipv4#sessions-up
Best regards,
Thomas
From: NANOG on behalf of James Stankiewicz
Date: Wednesday, 30. January 2019 at 19:32
To: Jared Mauch
Cc: North American Network Operators' Group
Subject: Re: Calling LinkedIn, Amazon and Akamai @ DE-C
.net/routeservers/rs1_nyc_ipv4#sessions-up
>
>
>
> Best regards,
> Thomas
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *NANOG on behalf of James Stankiewicz <
> stankiew...@njedge.net>
> *Date: *Wednesday, 30. January 2019 at 19:32
> *To: *Jared Mauch
> *Cc: *North Americ
On Thu, Jan 30, 2019 at 23:10 AM Ren Provo wrote:
> You probably should remove sessions with networks
> explicitly *not* participating in route servers versus
> displaying them on a global shame list.
And so it begins — yet another discussion on what does the word
"responsibility" really mean.
G
On 1/31/19 12:36 AM, Töma Gavrichenkov wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 30, 2019 at 23:10 AM Ren Provo wrote:
>> You probably should remove sessions with networks
>> explicitly *not* participating in route servers versus
>> displaying them on a global shame list.
> And so it begins — yet another discussion on
On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 23:55:40 +, "i3D.net - Martijn Schmidt" said:
> Here: all networks that didn't already change their peering IP are not
> yet connected to the updated route-server. Some networks are not
> connected to any route-server. Therefore, those networks did not yet
> change their
net - Martijn Schmidt"
Cc: "North American Network Operators' Group"
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 7:32:17 PM
Subject: Re: Calling LinkedIn, Amazon and Akamai @ DE-CIX NY
On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 23:55:40 +, "i3D.net - Martijn Schmidt" said:
> Here: all
Hi Ren et al.,
Thanks for pointing out that some peers do not use the route servers. This
group can be subdivided in a group of peers not sending any IP prefixes to the
route servers while maintaining a route server BGP session, and a group of
peers not even connecting to the route server. The
On 31/Jan/19 09:51, Thomas King wrote:
> Hi Ren et al.,
>
> Thanks for pointing out that some peers do not use the route servers. This
> group can be subdivided in a group of peers not sending any IP prefixes to
> the route servers while maintaining a route server BGP session, and a group
>
On 31/1/19 7:08 pm, Mark Tinka wrote:
> I believe most exchange points maintain both route servers and route
> collectors.
>
> Generally, most peers will connect to the RS, but not all. As you
> mention, some may connect but not send any routes.
>
> However, I believe all peers will connect to th
On 31/Jan/19 12:04, Julien Goodwin wrote:
> Even in exchanges that strongly encourage their use route collectors
> were much less connected to than route servers, and few exchanges had
> them in the first place.
We, for example, connect to RS's more selectively.
We are more liberal about RC's
: Thursday, January 31, 2019 6:20:42 AM
Subject: Re: Calling LinkedIn, Amazon and Akamai @ DE-CIX NY
On 31/Jan/19 12:04, Julien Goodwin wrote:
> Even in exchanges that strongly encourage their use route collectors
> were much less connected to than route servers, and few exchanges had
>
On 31/Jan/19 14:59, Mike Hammett wrote:
> Do people not know how to use local pref and MED to prefer PNI over
> route server?
We don't particularly care how the routes are learned. Routes are routes.
Our motivation for or against peering with an RS is granular policy
control, and the level of
.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest-IX
http://www.midwest-ix.com
- Original Message -
From: "Mark Tinka"
To: "Mike Hammett"
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2019 7:09:54 AM
Subject: Re: Calling LinkedI
On 31/Jan/19 15:54, Mike Hammett wrote:
> Not all routes are created equal. If you have a PNI and an IX
> connection of equal capacity, obviously the IX connection will fill up
> first given that there is more opportunity there.
I think you meant to say not all "paths" are equal. Routes are rou
com
- Original Message -
From: "Mark Tinka"
To: "Mike Hammett"
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2019 8:14:44 AM
Subject: Re: Calling LinkedIn, Amazon and Akamai @ DE-CIX NY
On 31/Jan/19 15:54, Mike Hammett wrote:
Not all routes are cr
On 31/Jan/19 16:22, Mike Hammett wrote:
> A prefix is a prefix. A route is a prefix plus a next-hop. Your next
> hop for your PNI is different than your IX.
And for me, it doesn't matter as long as I am maintaining both my public
link sand PNI's properly.
If my peers are not, I'm happy to take
> On Jan 30, 2019, at 17:32 , valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
>
> On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 23:55:40 +, "i3D.net - Martijn Schmidt" said:
>
>> Here: all networks that didn't already change their peering IP are not
>> yet connected to the updated route-server. Some networks are not
>> connected
What do IXes do (or can do) to enforce the completion of a renumbering?
For example, Chicago Equinix announced a renumbering beginning of 2018,
and while 99% of our peers have renumbered, we still have an albeit
small handful who have not. (I will not name names.)
That situation didn't get ne
* br...@shout.net (Bryan Holloway) [Fri 01 Feb 2019, 02:00 CET]:
What do IXes do (or can do) to enforce the completion of a renumbering?
Renumbering is not complicated, but it's a lot of work to do it well.
- Set a realistic time schedule well in advance. Keep in mind that
some have change c
On 1/2/19 1:31 pm, Niels Bakker wrote:
> * br...@shout.net (Bryan Holloway) [Fri 01 Feb 2019, 02:00 CET]:
>> What do IXes do (or can do) to enforce the completion of a renumbering?
> - Be ready to move ports to a quarantine VLAN when they haven't
> renumbered in time, despite those previously m
Bryan Holloway wrote on 01/02/2019 01:00:
What's the next step, if any?
use edge ACLs on the IXP infrastructure to block BGP on the old IP
address range. You can then use ARP ping to work out who's still got
the old IP addresses configured.
Nick
ilto:stankiew...@njedge.net>>
Date: Wednesday, 30. January 2019 at 19:32
To: Jared Mauch mailto:ja...@puck.nether.net>>
Cc: North American Network Operators' Group
mailto:nanog@nanog.org>>
Subject: Re: Calling LinkedIn, Amazon and Akamai @ DE-CIX NY
Microsoft an Edgecast has n
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