Re: Cogent charging 50/mo for BGP (not IPs, the service)

2018-11-11 Thread Mark Tinka
On 19/Oct/18 16:57, Marshall, Quincy wrote: > > * * > > Not unheard of… requested several new quotes in the last few months > and at least 2 included $50/mo charge for BGP. > My memory could be dodgy, but I think I recall seeing something similar on an order form they sent us for an upgrade (or

RE: Cogent charging 50/mo for BGP (not IPs, the service)

2018-10-19 Thread Marshall, Quincy
On: Friday, October 19, 2018 10:03 AM, Jeff Waddell said… Here in the US it is unheard of. So far for every turn up I have done in Europe or Asia we were charged a separate BGP session fee. Not unheard of… requested several new quotes in the last few months and at least 2 included $50/mo charge

Re: Cogent charging 50/mo for BGP (not IPs, the service)

2018-10-19 Thread Dovid Bender
*From: *NANOG on >> behalf of Josh Luthman >> >> *Date: *Wednesday, October 17, 2018 at 12:10 PM >> *To: *Brielle Bruns >> *Cc: *NANOG list >> *Subject: *Re: Cogent charging 50/mo for BGP (not IPs, the service) >> >> >> >> I vie

Re: Cogent charging 50/mo for BGP (not IPs, the service)

2018-10-19 Thread Jeff Waddell
gt; > *From: *NANOG on > behalf of Josh Luthman > > *Date: *Wednesday, October 17, 2018 at 12:10 PM > *To: *Brielle Bruns > *Cc: *NANOG list > *Subject: *Re: Cogent charging 50/mo for BGP (not IPs, the service) > > > > I view Cogent IP space as a way to lock custome

Re: Cogent charging 50/mo for BGP (not IPs, the service)

2018-10-19 Thread H I Baysal
y for establishing BGP with them on a given circuit.  I believe if you used static routes and their space, you would not have to pay it. *From: *NANOG on behalf of Josh Luthman *Date: *Wednesday, October 17, 2018 at 12:10 PM *To: *Brielle Bruns *Cc: *NANOG list *Subject: *Re: Cogent charging 50/mo fo

Re: Cogent charging 50/mo for BGP (not IPs, the service)

2018-10-17 Thread Ben Cannon
t;> > From: NANOG on behalf of Josh Luthman >> > >> > Date: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 at 12:10 PM >> > To: Brielle Bruns >> > Cc: NANOG list >> > Subject: Re: Cogent charging 50/mo for BGP (not IPs, the service) >> > >> &

Re: Cogent charging 50/mo for BGP (not IPs, the service)

2018-10-17 Thread Josh Luthman
t; used static routes and their space, you would not have to pay it. > > > > From: NANOG on behalf of Josh Luthman < > j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > > Date: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 at 12:10 PM > > To: Brielle Bruns > > Cc: NANOG list > > Subject:

Re: Cogent charging 50/mo for BGP (not IPs, the service)

2018-10-17 Thread Anderson, Charles R
> used static routes and their space, you would not have to pay it. > > From: NANOG on behalf of Josh Luthman > > Date: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 at 12:10 PM > To: Brielle Bruns > Cc: NANOG list > Subject: Re: Cogent charging 50/mo for BGP (not IPs, the service) >

Re: Cogent charging 50/mo for BGP (not IPs, the service)

2018-10-17 Thread David Hubbard
:10 PM To: Brielle Bruns Cc: NANOG list Subject: Re: Cogent charging 50/mo for BGP (not IPs, the service) I view Cogent IP space as a way to lock customers to their service, ie make them sticky. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed

Re: Cogent charging 50/mo for BGP (not IPs, the service)

2018-10-17 Thread Josh Luthman
I view Cogent IP space as a way to lock customers to their service, ie make them sticky. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 12:03 PM Brielle Bruns wrote: > On 10/17/2018 9:47 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > Has anyone

Re: Cogent charging 50/mo for BGP (not IPs, the service)

2018-10-17 Thread Jeff Waddell
t as much if > it actually delivered me every BGP prefix in the global routing table… > > > > *From: *NANOG on behalf of Josh Luthman < > j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > *Date: *Wednesday, October 17, 2018 at 11:49 AM > *To: *NANOG list > *Subject: *Cogent ch

Re: Cogent charging 50/mo for BGP (not IPs, the service)

2018-10-17 Thread Brielle Bruns
On 10/17/2018 9:47 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Has anyone else dealt with this mess?  Even my Cogent rep admits it's unique to their business. That sounds like the BS the first company I worked for tried to pull. One would think they'd welcome customers bringing their own IP space since it saves

Re: Cogent charging 50/mo for BGP (not IPs, the service)

2018-10-17 Thread valdis . kletnieks
On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 15:53:47 -, David Hubbard said: > Yep we pay it on our circuits, begrudgingly. Wouldn’t mind it as much if > it > actually delivered me every BGP prefix in the global routing table… On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 11:49:10 -0400, Jason Canady said: >  I believe IPv6 BGP is free.

Re: Cogent charging 50/mo for BGP (not IPs, the service)

2018-10-17 Thread David Hubbard
Yep we pay it on our circuits, begrudgingly. Wouldn’t mind it as much if it actually delivered me every BGP prefix in the global routing table… From: NANOG on behalf of Josh Luthman Date: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 at 11:49 AM To: NANOG list Subject: Cogent charging 50/mo for BGP (not IPs

Re: Cogent charging 50/mo for BGP (not IPs, the service)

2018-10-17 Thread Jason Canady
Yes.  Our service didn't start out this way, but a few years ago they added that.  At least my rep at the time quoted me out with the fee added into it.  I believe IPv6 BGP is free. On 10/17/18 11:47 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Has anyone else dealt with this mess?  Even my Cogent rep admits it's

Cogent charging 50/mo for BGP (not IPs, the service)

2018-10-17 Thread Josh Luthman
Has anyone else dealt with this mess? Even my Cogent rep admits it's unique to their business. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373