Re: Colocation providers and ACL requests

2011-11-02 Thread Adam Rothschild
On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 8:00 PM, Jimmy Hess wrote: > On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Kevin Loch wrote: >> We have always accommodated temporary ACL's for active DDOS attacks.  I >> think that is fairly standard across the ISP/hosting industry. Indeed. We'll do it; ditto every reputable hosting,

Re: Colocation providers and ACL requests

2011-11-01 Thread Jimmy Hess
On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Kevin Loch wrote: > Christopher Pilkington wrote: > We have always accommodated temporary ACL's for active DDOS attacks.  I > think that is fairly standard across the ISP/hosting industry. And it's reasonable to accomodate the customer that asks, and reasonable for

Re: Colocation providers and ACL requests

2011-11-01 Thread Jack Bates
On 11/1/2011 1:22 PM, Kevin Loch wrote: Christopher Pilkington wrote: Is it common in the industry for a colocation provider, when requested to put an egress ACL facing us such as: deny udp any a.b.c.d/24 eq 80 …to refuse and tell us we must subscribe to their managed DDOS product? We have

Re: Colocation providers and ACL requests

2011-11-01 Thread Kevin Loch
Christopher Pilkington wrote: Is it common in the industry for a colocation provider, when requested to put an egress ACL facing us such as: deny udp any a.b.c.d/24 eq 80 …to refuse and tell us we must subscribe to their managed DDOS product? We have always accommodated temporary ACL's for

Re: Colocation providers and ACL requests

2011-10-30 Thread Mike Gatti
> This is pretty common, but don't expect a filtering package without > purchasing it. > > James > > - Original Message - > From: "Christopher Pilkington" > To: "NANOG mailing list" > Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 2:43:00 PM >

Re: Colocation providers and ACL requests

2011-10-27 Thread James Ashton
7;t expect a filtering package without purchasing it. James - Original Message - From: "Christopher Pilkington" To: "NANOG mailing list" Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 2:43:00 PM Subject: Colocation providers and ACL requests Is it common in the industry f

Re: Colocation providers and ACL requests

2011-10-27 Thread Keegan Holley
2011/10/26 Jay Ashworth > - Original Message - > > From: "Keegan Holley" > > > > - Original Message - > > > > From: "Keegan Holley" > > > > > > > I'm assuming colo means hosting, and the OP misspoke. Most colo > > > > providers > > > > don't provide active network for colo (as i

Re: Colocation providers and ACL requests

2011-10-26 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "Keegan Holley" > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Keegan Holley" > > > > > I'm assuming colo means hosting, and the OP misspoke. Most colo > > > providers > > > don't provide active network for colo (as in power and rack only) > > customers. > > >

Re: Colocation providers and ACL requests

2011-10-26 Thread Keegan Holley
2011/10/25 Jay Ashworth > - Original Message - > > From: "Keegan Holley" > > > I'm assuming colo means hosting, and the OP misspoke. Most colo providers > > don't provide active network for colo (as in power and rack only) > customers. > > Most? > > I'm sure there are exceptions to that

Re: Colocation providers and ACL requests

2011-10-26 Thread Christopher J. Pilkington
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 9:21 PM, Keegan Holley wrote: > I'm assuming colo means hosting, and the OP misspoke.  Most colo providers > don't provide active network for colo (as in power and rack only) customers. Yes, hosting. I did indeed misspeak.

Re: Colocation providers and ACL requests

2011-10-25 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "Keegan Holley" > I'm assuming colo means hosting, and the OP misspoke. Most colo providers > don't provide active network for colo (as in power and rack only) customers. Most? Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink

Re: Colocation providers and ACL requests

2011-10-25 Thread Keegan Holley
I'm assuming colo means hosting, and the OP misspoke. Most colo providers don't provide active network for colo (as in power and rack only) customers. 2011/10/25 Paul Graydon > On 10/25/2011 08:43 AM, Christopher Pilkington wrote: > >> Is it common in the industry for a colocation provider, whe

Re: Colocation providers and ACL requests

2011-10-25 Thread Paul Graydon
On 10/25/2011 08:43 AM, Christopher Pilkington wrote: Is it common in the industry for a colocation provider, when requested to put an egress ACL facing us such as: deny udp any a.b.c.d/24 eq 80 …to refuse and tell us we must subscribe to their managed DDOS product? -cjp For colo? No, f

Re: Colocation providers and ACL requests

2011-10-25 Thread William Herrin
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 2:43 PM, Christopher Pilkington wrote: > Is it common in the industry for a colocation provider, when > requested to put an egress ACL facing us such as: > >  deny udp any a.b.c.d/24 eq 80 > > …to refuse and tell us we must subscribe to their > managed DDOS product? Christ

Re: Colocation providers and ACL requests

2011-10-25 Thread Keegan Holley
2011/10/25 Brandon Galbraith > On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Keegan Holley > wrote: > >> Depends on the provider. Many just do not want to manage hundreds of >> customer ACL's on access routers. Especially when it would compete with a >> managed service (firewall, IDP, DDOS) of some sort.

Re: Colocation providers and ACL requests

2011-10-25 Thread PC
Why not put the ACL on your ingress side at your switch or router? I would typically not expect a colo provider to provide this service unless I'm paying extra for it. The smaller they are, the more likely they are to do so to keep you happy, but I certainly wouldn't be asking this request unless

Re: Colocation providers and ACL requests

2011-10-25 Thread Christopher Pilkington
On Oct 25, 2011, at 2:50 PM, Brandon Galbraith wrote: > On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Keegan Holley > wrote: > >> Depends on the provider. Many just do not want to manage hundreds of >> > Conversely, some don't want to be paid for bare colocation (at bare > colocation prices) and have to th

Re: Colocation providers and ACL requests

2011-10-25 Thread Brandon Galbraith
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Keegan Holley wrote: > Depends on the provider. Many just do not want to manage hundreds of > customer ACL's on access routers. Especially when it would compete with a > managed service (firewall, IDP, DDOS) of some sort. Some still are under > the impression th

Re: Colocation providers and ACL requests

2011-10-25 Thread Keegan Holley
Depends on the provider. Many just do not want to manage hundreds of customer ACL's on access routers. Especially when it would compete with a managed service (firewall, IDP, DDOS) of some sort. Some still are under the impression that ACL's are software based and their giant $100k+ edge box wou

Colocation providers and ACL requests

2011-10-25 Thread Christopher Pilkington
Is it common in the industry for a colocation provider, when requested to put an egress ACL facing us such as: deny udp any a.b.c.d/24 eq 80 …to refuse and tell us we must subscribe to their managed DDOS product? -cjp