Rob McEwen wrote:
Personally, I prefer paying a little extra for my own dedicated and/or
co-located servers... where I'm in total control of ALL aspects of
hardware/software.
You are resisting the lure back to the mainframe paradime [sic], let go
of your resistance and let yourself be gently
On 6/7/12 20:53 , Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
It is like that supreme court judge who defined porn as i know it
when I see it
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacobellis_v._Ohio
a case which is notable in this context for having four differing
majority opinions.
On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 5:00 AM,
On Thursday, 07 June, 2012 12:52, Owen DeLong observed:
This is a hard problem to solve. Not the least of the difficulties is
the fact that if you ask 50 engineers to define Cloud, you will get
at least 100 definitions many of which are incompatible to the point
of mutually exclusive.
That
On 6/8/2012 10:44 AM, Keith Medcalf wrote:
That is *the* definition of Cloud. The term Cloud is a proxy for the
expression under the exclusive control of a third-party over which we have
no influence nor control in order to gain plausibile denibility and CYA
ptotection if something bad
talking with some folks from various industries about
configuration systems ala Bcfg2, Puppet, Chef, and others. Many of
them care far too much about the current nodes configuration status as
some admin had logged in and changed something. I am authoring a
system called Enablement that uses what
On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 11:51:51 -0700, Owen DeLong said:
This is a hard problem to solve. Not the least of the difficulties is the
fact that
if you ask 50 engineers to define Cloud, you will get at least 100
definitions
many of which are incompatible to the point of mutually exclusive.
cloud
On Jun 7, 2012, at 2:49 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 11:51:51 -0700, Owen DeLong said:
This is a hard problem to solve. Not the least of the difficulties is the
fact that
if you ask 50 engineers to define Cloud, you will get at least 100
definitions
many of
On 06/07/2012 11:49 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 11:51:51 -0700, Owen DeLong said:
This is a hard problem to solve. Not the least of the difficulties is the fact
that
if you ask 50 engineers to define Cloud, you will get at least 100 definitions
many of which are
On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 12:12:09 -1000, Paul Graydon said:
what cloud is you've also got to go into the realms of private clouds
(using, for example, openstack), on your own infrastructure in your own
datacenter.
Same definition. The user I've provisioned still has no idea where I
provisioned
On 06/07/2012 12:59 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 12:12:09 -1000, Paul Graydon said:
what cloud is you've also got to go into the realms of private clouds
(using, for example, openstack), on your own infrastructure in your own
datacenter.
Same definition. The user
It is like that supreme court judge who defined porn as i know it
when I see it
On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 5:00 AM, Paul Graydon p...@paulgraydon.co.uk wrote:
Your original definition: cloud == you rented a colo, but have no clue
where. I know exactly where my colo is. I know exactly where my
By my count, we now have 3 engineers that have chimed in and somewhere between
5 and 6 definitions. Q.E. D.
Owen
On Jun 7, 2012, at 8:53 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
It is like that supreme court judge who defined porn as i know it
when I see it
On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 5:00 AM, Paul
On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 13:30:53 -1000, Paul Graydon said:
Your original definition: cloud == you rented a colo, but have no
clue where. I know exactly where my colo is. I know exactly where my
physical servers are. If I run a private cloud on those servers and
provision stuff there, I'll
Lurker speaking... beware...
I have been talking with some folks from various industries about
configuration systems ala Bcfg2, Puppet, Chef, and others. Many of
them care far too much about the current nodes configuration status as
some admin had logged in and changed something. I am authoring
configuration systems ala Bcfg2, Puppet, Chef, and others. Many of
them care far too much about the current nodes configuration status as
some admin had logged in and changed something. I am authoring a
system called Enablement that uses what ever technology needed (ssh,
telnet over admin vlan
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