On 21/05/18 17:10, Large Hadron Collider wrote:
> I would go as far as to say that Tier 1 is a derogatory designation, but
> I have a beef with Cogent because they're expecting otherwise Tier 1
> IPv6 ISP Hurricane Electric to bow to the altar of Cogent.
Owen, is dat yew?!
--
Tom
On 18/05/18 14:55, Stephen Satchell wrote:
> What happened when you sent out your last RPQ to the vendors with these
> requirements?
Why bother? There are so few products, with so few vendors, and their
list prices & discount levels are easily researchable in less than a
day. If you thought someon
On 19/05/18 21:51, Ben Cannon wrote:
> Isn’t that the ASR9010? (And before that 7609?)
I can't tell if you're taking the piss or not.
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Tom
* David Hubbard [2018-05-16 19:01]:
> I’m curious if anyone who’s used 3356 for transit has found
> shortcomings in how their peering and redundancy is configured, or
>From a recent experience I can tell you that a change request to
change a peering from "full table" to "default route only" has
r
Yep?
-Ben
> On May 21, 2018, at 6:37 PM, Aaron Gould wrote:
>
> 9010 and 7609 Small?
>
> Aaron
>
>> On May 19, 2018, at 3:51 PM, Ben Cannon wrote:
>>
>> Isn’t that the ASR9010? (And before that 7609?)
>>
>> -Ben
>>
On May 18, 2018, at 4:20 AM, Tom Hill wrote:
On 1
On 19/May/18 22:51, Ben Cannon wrote:
> Isn’t that the ASR9010? (And before that 7609?)
The ASR9901 comes reasonably close - as close as the MX204 could get
(although 1Gbps ports might be an issue).
Mark.
9010 and 7609 Small?
Aaron
> On May 19, 2018, at 3:51 PM, Ben Cannon wrote:
>
> Isn’t that the ASR9010? (And before that 7609?)
>
> -Ben
>
>>> On May 18, 2018, at 4:20 AM, Tom Hill wrote:
>>>
>>> On 17/05/18 14:24, Mike Hammett wrote:
>>> There's some industry hard-on with having a fe
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From: David Hubbard
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2018 12:03 PM
Subject: Curiosity about AS3356 L3/CenturyLink network resiliency (in general)
To:
I’m curious if anyone who’s used 3356 for transit has found shortcomings in how
paths are not so
> easy to acquire.
>
> From: Robert DeVita
> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 5:36:23 PM
> To: David Hubbard; nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: Curiosity about AS3356 L3/CenturyLink network resiliency (in
> general)
>
> If t
Isn’t that the ASR9010? (And before that 7609?)
-Ben
> On May 18, 2018, at 4:20 AM, Tom Hill wrote:
>
>> On 17/05/18 14:24, Mike Hammett wrote:
>> There's some industry hard-on with having a few ginormous routers instead of
>> many smaller ones.
>
> "Industry hard-on", ITYM "Greedy vendors".
--- joe...@bogus.com wrote:
From: joel jaeggli
alcatel/nokia 7750 (L3's newer PE platform) is large but
not outlandish and they've been deployed for a couple
years.
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More than a couple... I was using them for MPLS over 10
years ago. They're really g
I would go as far as to say that Tier 1 is a derogatory designation, but
I have a beef with Cogent because they're expecting otherwise Tier 1
IPv6 ISP Hurricane Electric to bow to the altar of Cogent.
On 05/20/2018 15:19, Mark Tinka wrote:
On 20/May/18 09:16, Baldur Norddahl wrote:
The que
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- Original Message -
From: "valdis kletnieks"
To: "Baldur Norddahl"
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 5:43:42 PM
Subject: Re: Curiosity about AS3356 L3/CenturyLink network resiliency (in
general)
On Sun, 20 May 2018 09:16:25 +0200, Baldur Norddahl sa
On Sun, 20 May 2018 09:16:25 +0200, Baldur Norddahl said:
> He is complaining about AS3356 in specific and claiming they COULD
> reroute around it but choose not to. This leads me to assume there are
> alternatives. Two places, Miami and Texas, are mentioned and that a
> double fault, one in Miami
On Sun, May 20, 2018 at 12:33 PM Rubens Kuhl wrote:
>
> CenturyLink bought Level 3, which bought Global Crossing, which bought
> Impsat; this makes every market unique, for the good and bad of it.
>
> What I have as a customer feeling is that Global Crossing was the most
> quality-minded of the 4,
CenturyLink bought Level 3, which bought Global Crossing, which bought
Impsat; this makes every market unique, for the good and bad of it.
What I have as a customer feeling is that Global Crossing was the most
quality-minded of the 4, while the other 3 is/were more "take what we give
you and shut
s somewhat
orthogonal to the number of routers.
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> Midwest-IX
> http://www.midwest-ix.com
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> ----- Original Message -
>
> From: "David Hubbard"
> To:
On 20/May/18 09:16, Baldur Norddahl wrote:
>
> The question was if downtime on a transit provider of many hours is
> unacceptable. I am offering my experience that this happens to all of
> them. Some of them can have problems that last days not hours. Do not
> ever assume that a so called "tier
On 19/May/18 22:28, Baldur Norddahl wrote:
> What happened to do not trust anyone? Create your own resiliency by being
> multihomed to as many transits you can afford.
>
> You need the ability to shutdown a transit that is having trouble. It
> happens to all of them.
Agreed.
Mark.
Den 20/05/2018 kl. 05.43 skrev valdis.kletni...@vt.edu:
On Sat, 19 May 2018 22:28:07 +0200, Baldur Norddahl said:
What happened to do not trust anyone? Create your own resiliency by being
multihomed to as many transits you can afford.
Re-read what David Hubbard said:
unacceptable period of
On Sat, 19 May 2018 22:28:07 +0200, Baldur Norddahl said:
> What happened to do not trust anyone? Create your own resiliency by being
> multihomed to as many transits you can afford.
Re-read what David Hubbard said:
> unacceptable period of time (many hours). Iâm learning that the entire
> mar
: Saturday, May 19, 2018 5:36:23 PM
To: David Hubbard; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Curiosity about AS3356 L3/CenturyLink network resiliency (in
general)
If this is a know issue and has happened before and point to point circuits
aren’t effected you always have the opportunity to diversify your own
What happened to do not trust anyone? Create your own resiliency by being
multihomed to as many transits you can afford.
You need the ability to shutdown a transit that is having trouble. It
happens to all of them.
Regards
Baldur
ons. 16. maj 2018 19.02 skrev David Hubbard :
> I’m curious if a
On 05/18/2018 04:20 AM, Tom Hill wrote:
On 17/05/18 14:24, Mike Hammett wrote:
There's some industry hard-on with having a few ginormous routers instead of
many smaller ones.
"Industry hard-on", ITYM "Greedy vendors".
I think this view (both versions) are a little over the top. "Never
att
On 17/05/18 14:24, Mike Hammett wrote:
> There's some industry hard-on with having a few ginormous routers instead of
> many smaller ones.
"Industry hard-on", ITYM "Greedy vendors".
Try finding a 'small' router with a lot of ports (1 & 10GE) for your
customers, and the right features/TCAM/CP per
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From: "David Hubbard"
To: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2018 11:59:42 AM
Subject: Curiosity about AS3356 L3/CenturyLink network resiliency (in general)
I’m curious if anyone who’s used 3356 for transit has found shortcomings in how
their peering and redund
On 16/May/18 18:59, David Hubbard wrote:
> I’m curious if anyone who’s used 3356 for transit has found shortcomings in
> how their peering and redundancy is configured, or what a normal expectation
> to have is. The Tampa Bay market has been completely down for 3356 IP
> services twice so fa
I’m curious if anyone who’s used 3356 for transit has found shortcomings in how
their peering and redundancy is configured, or what a normal expectation to
have is. The Tampa Bay market has been completely down for 3356 IP services
twice so far this year, each for what I’d consider an unaccepta
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