DDoS - CoD?

2011-09-06 Thread BH
Hi all, I am wondering if anyone has seen a large DDoS before, specifically on port 80 UDP with data that seems to be relating to Call of Duty 4. I did a quick packet capture, and the payload looks like this: 14:50:42.716247 IP Y1.YY.YY.YY.28960 > XX.XX.XX.XX.80: UDP, length 499 0x:

Re: DDoS - CoD?

2011-09-06 Thread Dobbins, Roland
On Sep 6, 2011, at 2:53 PM, BH wrote: > Has anyone seen similar traffic before? I I've seen DDoS traffic on UDP/80 as far back as 2002 - the miscreants often don't know a lot about TCP/IP, and if something happens to work once, they incorporate it into their attack tool defaults and keep using

RE: DDoS - CoD?

2011-09-06 Thread John van Oppen
i have seen many udp/80 floods as well... pretty common. John van Oppen Spectrum Networks / AS11404 From: Dobbins, Roland [rdobb...@arbor.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 1:00 AM To: North American Network Operators' Group Subject: Re: DDoS

Re: DDoS - CoD?

2011-09-06 Thread BH
On 6/09/2011 4:00 PM, Dobbins, Roland wrote: > I've seen DDoS traffic on UDP/80 as far back as 2002 Hi Roland, I should be a bit more clear sorry, I too have frequently seen attacks on 80/udp but mainly as a source (eg. compromised hosting accounts) rather than the destination. I didn't in the pa

Re: DDoS - CoD?

2011-09-06 Thread Greg Chalmers
Could be legitimate CoD servers responding to a spoofed query? How much traffic are you talking about out of curiosity? Regards Greg On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 6:03 PM, BH wrote: > On 6/09/2011 4:00 PM, Dobbins, Roland wrote: > > I've seen DDoS traffic on UDP/80 as far back as 2002 > Hi Roland, >

Re: DDoS - CoD?

2011-09-06 Thread Alexander Harrowell
On Tuesday 06 Sep 2011 09:14:26 Greg Chalmers wrote: > Could be legitimate CoD servers responding to a spoofed query? My first thought looking at the packet dump. Interesting that some poor sap's hotmail address is embedded in it. > How much > traffic are you talking about out of curiosity? > >

Re: DDoS - CoD?

2011-09-06 Thread Jeff Walter
Call of Duty is apparently using the same flawed protocol as Quake III servers, so you can think of it as an amplification attack. (I wish I'd forgotten all about this stuff) You send "\xff\xff\xff\xffgetstatus\n" in a UDP packet with a spoofed source, and the server responds with everything

Re: DDoS - CoD?

2011-09-06 Thread Mark Grigsby
Recently (last month) Ryan Gordon (the person responsible for porting COD to Linux) released a patch for cod4 servers to address this specific issue. Here is the announcement and a link to the original email as well. The discussion also indicated that all of the Quake III based games suffered fro

Re: DDoS - CoD?

2011-09-06 Thread George Herbert
Arrgghhh This reminds me of the WebNFS attack. Which is why Sun aborted WebNFS's public launch, after I pointed it out during its Solaris 2.6 early access program. Never run a volume-multiplying service on UDP if you can help it, exposed to the outside world, without serious in-band source v

Re: DDoS - CoD?

2011-09-08 Thread Ryan Gelobter
Sadly I see these all the time, and Valve's SRCDS is vulnerable as well (AFAIK any Q3 engine game is too). There are unofficial patches for source but I wish Valve and others would fix it for good. Normally I see these types of attacks in the 1-2Gbps range but we recently have seen them in the 5-8G

Re: DDoS - CoD? - Activision contact

2011-09-06 Thread BH
Looking around, I believe the issue is that the IP has ended up on a master game list, so we are now getting the queries directed at US. For anyone interested, there seems to be some info here: http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1670090 With the packet capture I have and th

Re: DDoS - CoD? - Activision contact

2011-09-07 Thread Jeff Walter
On 9/6/2011 6:02 AM, BH wrote: Looking around, I believe the issue is that the IP has ended up on a master game list, so we are now getting the queries directed at US. Having written multiple versions of a Quake III master server (again, much self-hate) I pulled one of my old master query scri