Re: DHCP Use (was Re: )

2010-04-26 Thread Jack Bates
Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: Yes, running IPoETHoATMoDSL is really nice if you own the dslam yourself, then it's only a media converter. It's also nice to be able to have a very simple L3 device in the CO and do routing there, avoids all the need for secure metro ethernet and long L2 transport.

Re: DHCP Use (was Re: )

2010-04-26 Thread Tony Hoyle
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 26/04/2010 05:53, Seth Mattinen wrote: > > Don't forget the increased MTU without PPP eating some of it. > You get 1500 with PPPoA anyway. You can do it with PPPoE with some jiggery pokery.. that tends to be in the class of 'neat hack' though.

Re: DHCP Use (was Re: )

2010-04-25 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Sun, 25 Apr 2010, Roy wrote: My old company does it this way. Made life very easy. Most consumer grade routers come set for DHCP out of the box so it is plug and play. Yes, running IPoETHoATMoDSL is really nice if you own the dslam yourself, then it's only a media converter. It's also n

Re: DHCP Use (was Re: )

2010-04-25 Thread Roy
On 4/25/2010 5:11 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 4/25/10 4:33 PM, Tony Hoyle wrote: On 25/04/2010 22:06, Larry Sheldon wrote: The whole idea that DHCP should only be used for (and is absolute proof of the status of) despised-class customers is just nuts. I've never seen DHCP u

Re: DHCP Use (was Re: )

2010-04-25 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 4/25/10 9:23 PM, Jack Bates wrote: > Seth Mattinen wrote: >> On 4/25/10 4:33 PM, Tony Hoyle wrote: >>> On 25/04/2010 22:06, Larry Sheldon wrote: >>> The whole idea that DHCP should only be used for (and is absolute proof of the status of) despised-class customers is just nuts. >>> >>>

Re: DHCP Use (was Re: )

2010-04-25 Thread Jack Bates
Seth Mattinen wrote: On 4/25/10 4:33 PM, Tony Hoyle wrote: On 25/04/2010 22:06, Larry Sheldon wrote: The whole idea that DHCP should only be used for (and is absolute proof of the status of) despised-class customers is just nuts. I've never seen DHCP used on residential DSL circuits.. it's a

Re: DHCP Use (was Re: )

2010-04-25 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 4/25/10 4:33 PM, Tony Hoyle wrote: > On 25/04/2010 22:06, Larry Sheldon wrote: > >> The whole idea that DHCP should only be used for (and is absolute proof >> of the status of) despised-class customers is just nuts. > > > I've never seen DHCP used on residential DSL circuits.. it's all PPP (o

Re: DHCP Use (was Re: )

2010-04-25 Thread Larry Sheldon
On 4/25/2010 18:33, Tony Hoyle wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 25/04/2010 22:06, Larry Sheldon wrote: > >> The whole idea that DHCP should only be used for (and is absolute proof >> of the status of) despised-class customers is just nuts. >> > > I've never seen DH

Re: DHCP Use (was Re: )

2010-04-25 Thread Tony Hoyle
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 25/04/2010 22:06, Larry Sheldon wrote: > The whole idea that DHCP should only be used for (and is absolute proof > of the status of) despised-class customers is just nuts. > I've never seen DHCP used on residential DSL circuits.. it's all PPP (oA

DHCP Use (was Re: )

2010-04-25 Thread Larry Sheldon
On 4/25/2010 15:27, sth...@nethelp.no wrote: >>> - Dynamic addresses is a way to differentiate residential customers >>> (who pay less) from business customers (who pay more). >>> >> Which is both specious and obnoxious. > > It is a business choice, which you may or may not agree with. > >> Given