Re: DPI deployment use case

2011-10-12 Thread Carlos Martinez-Cagnazzo
Apparently Telcos are faced with implementing the following algorithm to create value-added services: - Take service S with provides value Y - Artificially remove value, creating new service V - Price V at the same level as S - Offer old S at a higher price point and market it as a value added

Re: DPI deployment use case

2011-10-10 Thread Arturo Servin
I imagine that those proposals are not from users … I would add tyrannical telcos cracking down on their own customers. -as On 7 Oct 2011, at 14:20, Claudio Lapidus wrote: Hello, On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 8:00 PM, Martin Millnert milln...@gmail.com wrote: I've seen

Re: DPI deployment use case

2011-10-07 Thread Claudio Lapidus
Hello, On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 8:00 PM, Martin Millnert milln...@gmail.com wrote: I've seen tyrannical governments use Bluecoat's to crack down on their own population(*). Was this the sort of use-case you were looking for? :) Ummm, not really... :) Actually, we've been faced with proposals

Re: DPI deployment use case

2011-10-07 Thread PC
I've seen these used for two purposes over the years: 1) Repressive nation states. 2) ISPs/Universities who want to shape their bandwidth to prevent certain traffic types from consuming everything. 3) Integrated with enhanced caching solutions to serve content locally and save bandwidth (Web

Re: DPI deployment use case

2011-10-07 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 12:44 PM, PC paul4...@gmail.com wrote: Your use case is not beyond the possibility of full DPI, but a transparent proxy box of some nature would be sufficient for most of that.  Usage limits on the other hand is often easier done via your AAA accounting/radius solution,

Re: DPI deployment use case

2011-10-07 Thread Randy Bush
Actually, we've been faced with proposals to build services based on traffic classification, like e.g. access our own webmail and all social networking sites, but not skype and video you're on the wrong list. this list is about the internet. randy

Re: DPI deployment use case

2011-10-07 Thread Michael Hallgren
Le samedi 08 octobre 2011 à 05:57 +0900, Randy Bush a écrit : Actually, we've been faced with proposals to build services based on traffic classification, like e.g. access our own webmail and all social networking sites, but not skype and video you're on the wrong list. this list is

Re: DPI deployment use case

2011-10-06 Thread Martin Millnert
Hi, On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Claudio Lapidus clapi...@gmail.com wrote: what actual use cases have you seen in the field (if any) for DPI'ing user sessions, considering we are mostly a DSL shop. I've seen tyrannical governments use Bluecoat's to crack down on their own population(*).

DPI deployment use case

2011-10-05 Thread Claudio Lapidus
Hello all, We have had a number of DPI boxes (SCE8080) sitting in the access network for a while now, so far they served mainly for congestion management and such, and are wondering if there are some real use case in the fine-grained service control land (as the vendors keep whispering in out