Default routes on BGP routers with full feeds

2014-11-04 Thread Berry Mobley
I'm wondering how many of you who are multihomed also add default routes pointing to your providers from whom you are receiving full feeds. If so, why? If not, why not? Thanks, Berry

Default routes on BGP routers with full feeds

2014-11-04 Thread Berry Mobley
I'm wondering how many of you who are multihomed also add default routes pointing to your providers from whom you are receiving full feeds. If so, why? If not, why not? Thanks, Berry

Re: Default routes on BGP routers with full feeds

2014-11-04 Thread Blake Hudson
I often opt to leave one or more default routes configured with low priority (lower than BGP). The thinking is that if there is a fault with BGP, the router will still operate and the fault can be corrected remotely (in-band). The downside is that I might pass traffic for non-existing destinati

RE: Default routes on BGP routers with full feeds

2014-11-04 Thread Mike Walter
-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Berry Mobley Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 12:47 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Default routes on BGP routers with full feeds I'm wondering how many of you who are multihomed also add default routes pointing to your providers from whom you are receiving full fee

RE: Default routes on BGP routers with full feeds

2014-11-04 Thread Naslund, Steve
e BGP session helps ensure that I don't route traffic into a MPLS VPN that is not ours. Steven Naslund Chicago IL -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Berry Mobley Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 11:47 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Default rou

Re: Default routes on BGP routers with full feeds

2014-11-04 Thread Jared Mauch
> On Nov 4, 2014, at 1:25 PM, Mike Walter wrote: > > I have 5 providers and we get the default from all of them and full routing > tables. > > I have seen cases where if there is no default route, the traffic didn't know > where to go, even with full routes from all my providers. We put so

Re: Default routes on BGP routers with full feeds

2014-11-04 Thread William Herrin
On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Berry Mobley wrote: > I'm wondering how many of you who are > multihomed also add default routes pointing > to your providers from whom you are receiving full feeds. Back when I was in the ISP world I installed a default route pointing to a data capture machine. T

Re: Default routes on BGP routers with full feeds

2014-11-04 Thread Owen DeLong
Usually, when this is done, it is an adjunct to providing connectivity fast while the table is loading on a connection reset. Owen > On Nov 4, 2014, at 9:47 AM, Berry Mobley wrote: > > I'm wondering how many of you who are multihomed also add default routes > pointing to your providers from w

Re: Default routes on BGP routers with full feeds

2014-11-04 Thread Owen DeLong
t; Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 12:47 PM > To: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Default routes on BGP routers with full feeds > > I'm wondering how many of you who are multihomed also add default > routes pointing to your providers from whom you are receiving full feeds. > > If so, why? If not, why not? > > Thanks, > > Berry

Re: Default routes on BGP routers with full feeds

2014-11-04 Thread Chris Rogers
.org] On Behalf Of Berry Mobley > > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 12:47 PM > > To: nanog@nanog.org > > Subject: Default routes on BGP routers with full feeds > > > > I'm wondering how many of you who are multihomed also add default > > routes pointing to your providers from whom you are receiving full feeds. > > > > If so, why? If not, why not? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Berry > >

Re: Default routes on BGP routers with full feeds

2014-11-04 Thread Mark Tinka
On Tuesday, November 04, 2014 07:47:21 PM Berry Mobley wrote: > I'm wondering how many of you who are multihomed also add > default routes pointing to your providers from whom you > are receiving full feeds. > > If so, why? If not, why not? We filter out default routes from our upstreams, but m

Re: Default routes on BGP routers with full feeds

2014-11-04 Thread Andreas Larsen
- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Berry Mobley Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 12:47 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Default routes on BGP routers with full feeds I'm wondering how many of you who are multihomed also add default routes pointing to your providers from whom

Re: Default routes on BGP routers with full feeds

2014-11-05 Thread Marc Storck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Nov 5, 2014, at 7:49 AM, Andreas Larsen wrote: There is one setup where you would need default route from your provider. If you have no IBGP between two sites and your prefix is a large /16 on side and maybe a /18 from that /16 on another site.

RE: Default routes on BGP routers with full feeds

2014-11-05 Thread Adam Greene
nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Default routes on BGP routers with full feeds -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Nov 5, 2014, at 7:49 AM, Andreas Larsen wrote: There is one setup where you would need default route from your provider. If you have no IBGP between two sites and your pr

Re: Default routes on BGP routers with full feeds

2014-11-05 Thread Owen DeLong
them and full >>> routing tables. >>>> >>>> I have seen cases where if there is no default route, the traffic didn't >>> know where to go, even with full routes from all my providers. >>>> >>>> -Mike >>>> >

Re: Default routes on BGP routers with full feeds

2014-11-05 Thread William Herrin
On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Berry Mobley wrote: > I'm wondering how many of you who are multihomed > also add default routes pointing to your providers > from whom you are receiving full feeds. > > If so, why? If not, why not? Back when I worked for the DNC we ran into a problem with the TCA

Re: Default routes on BGP routers with full feeds

2014-11-05 Thread Fred
Long time I had the same opinion, however, if someone operates a network with multiple upstream providers the operator should be able to afford a proper out of band console access which solves this issue completely. I would only accept a default route on Uplinks where I am only receiving a par