has a max of about 12k
feet. So for 6 miles you’ll need 3 repeaters in the span *if* you have good
copper.
From: NANOG on behalf of Nick Bogle
Date: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 at 10:00 PM
To: Dan Hollis
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org"
Subject: Re: Extending network over a dry pair
T
> On Dec 13, 2018, at 4:27 PM, Hunter Fuller wrote:
>
> On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 4:22 PM Dan Hollis wrote:
> Repeaters are standard for T1s.
>
> I strongly suggest looking at wireless. There is almost guaranteed to be a
> spot you can put a repeater up to bridge you to your gateway.
>
>
On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 4:22 PM Dan Hollis wrote:
> Repeaters are standard for T1s.
>
> I strongly suggest looking at wireless. There is almost guaranteed to be a
> spot you can put a repeater up to bridge you to your gateway.
>
> Maybe this has been mentioned, and I missed it, but: A hybrid
Repeaters are standard for T1s.
I strongly suggest looking at wireless. There is almost guaranteed to be a
spot you can put a repeater up to bridge you to your gateway.
-Dan
On Wed, 12 Dec 2018, Nick Bogle wrote:
The driving distance is 4 miles, we are leasing it from CenturyLink whose
With CL in the middle, EoC might be an option. Personally, I'd find a
local WISP and see what they can come up with for you.
On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 10:01 PM Nick Bogle wrote:
> The driving distance is 4 miles, we are leasing it from CenturyLink whose
> headend maybe adds a mile or less, it's
For dry pairs, I have used Flowpoint SDSL modems (see attached). I
picked these up for a sawbuck.
Tim
On 12/12/18 5:00 PM, Dan Hollis wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Dec 2018, Nick Bogle wrote:
>> A quick question for you guys;
>>
>> If you had a single dry pair (pair of copper wires originally for phones)
t;Dan Hollis"
To: "Nick Bogle"
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 7:00:23 PM
Subject: Re: Extending network over a dry pair
On Wed, 12 Dec 2018, Nick Bogle wrote:
> A quick question for you guys;
>
> If you had a single dry pair (pair of coppe
The driving distance is 4 miles, we are leasing it from CenturyLink whose
headend maybe adds a mile or less, it's on the route and about half way
through. I made it 6 miles to be safe. We currently can pull a full 1.5Mbps
off of that T1 we run there so perhaps CenturyLink is repeating at their CO
It really does seem like repeaters are a necessity. If he can put power
down the wires, and get to them to install repeaters, that would seem
the obvious way to go.
Miles
On 12/12/18 9:32 PM, Dan Hollis wrote:
I doubt he will get >1.5mbps with those over a 6 mile long connection.
I did a
I doubt he will get >1.5mbps with those over a 6 mile long connection.
I did a quick check and flowpoint 2200s seem to max out at 192kbps at 3
miles.
-Dan
On Wed, 12 Dec 2018, Tim Pozar wrote:
For dry pairs, I have used Flowpoint SDSL modems (see attached). I
picked these up for a
On Wed, 12 Dec 2018, Nick Bogle wrote:
A quick question for you guys;
If you had a single dry pair (pair of copper wires originally for phones)
to a remote site that was around 6 miles away, what would you use? We
currently are just extending a T1 line to this site, but 1.5Mbps isn't
cutting it
] On
Behalf Of Jeremy Austin
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 4:38 PM
To: lath...@gmail.com
Cc: NANOG list
Subject: Re: Extending network over a dry pair
For a comparison of distance to capacity on copper, see
http://www.impulse-corp.co.uk/knowledge-base/transmission-distance-and-speed-differences
, December 12, 2018 4:19:21 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Extending network over a dry pair
Rent a cable plow and make a quick run of fiber during the night. Nobody will
notice.
:-)
6 miles is too far to get any speed on a phone line.
Rent a cable plow and make a quick run of fiber during the night. Nobody
will notice.
:-)
6 miles is too far to get any speed on a phone line.
I’ve used the Patton copper link devices such as the one you mentioned Nick,
and they work very well within the parameters they cover. Their tech-support is
excellent also.
-mel beckman
On Dec 12, 2018, at 1:44 PM, Josh Luthman
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
Something LRE
Alfie Pates"
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 4:42pm
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Extending network over a dry pair
Six miles is probably pushing it, but Proscend make some interesting Long-Range
Ethernet SFP transciever which are VDSL based. They're horrendously documented
and they
On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 1:25 PM Nick Bogle wrote:
> If you had a single dry pair (pair of copper wires originally for phones)
> to a remote site that was around 6 miles away, what would you use?
> We currently are just extending a T1 line to this site, but 1.5Mbps
> isn't cutting it anymore.
HA! But the question is; does it pass?
^^^ and that was my official 'first post' beware my linked in requests now
-Original Message-
From: NANOG On Behalf Of Phillip Carroll
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 4:53 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: RE: Extending network over a dry pair
On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 1:25 PM Nick Bogle wrote:
> If you had a single dry pair (pair of copper wires originally for phones)
> to a remote site that was around 6 miles away, what would you use?
> We currently are just extending a T1 line to this site, but 1.5Mbps
> isn't cutting it anymore.
Hi
On 12/12/2018 02:40 PM, Blake Hudson wrote:
As others have said, 6 miles might limit your bandwidth capacity.
Are there other places along the path that you could split break the 6
miles into multiple shorter links and regenerate the signal?
--
Grant. . . .
unix || die
smime.p7s
Whenever I have a dry pair I use fluke lube.
-Original Message-
From: NANOG On Behalf Of Blake Hudson
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 3:40 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Extending network over a dry pair
Nick Bogle wrote on 12/12/2018 3:25 PM:
> A quick question for you g
Six miles is probably pushing it, but Proscend make some interesting Long-
Range Ethernet SFP transciever which are VDSL based. They're
horrendously documented and they draw *way* more power than the SFP
specification allows.
They also make a version which is design to terminate VDSL broadband
Nick Bogle wrote on 12/12/2018 3:25 PM:
A quick question for you guys;
If you had a single dry pair (pair of copper wires originally for
phones) to a remote site that was around 6 miles away, what would you
use? We currently are just extending a T1 line to this site, but
1.5Mbps isn't
Something LRE possibly. Could just do VDSL.
Are you just looking at more than 1544 kbps or is there a particular
threshold you need to meet (to support a camera, etc)?
Josh Luthman
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On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 4:26
For a comparison of distance to capacity on copper, see
http://www.impulse-corp.co.uk/knowledge-base/transmission-distance-and-speed-differences-between-shdsl-and-vdsl2.htm
You might be able to pair bond -- if you had more than one pair.
If wireless isn't possible, you're likely needing
On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 01:25:32PM -0800, Nick Bogle wrote:
> A quick question for you guys;
>
> If you had a single dry pair (pair of copper wires originally for
> phones) to a remote site that was around 6 miles away, what would you
> use? We currently are just extending a T1 line to this
On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 3:27 PM Nick Bogle wrote:
> A quick question for you guys;
>
> If you had a single dry pair (pair of copper wires originally for phones)
> to a remote site that was around 6 miles away, what would you use? We
> currently are just extending a T1 line to this site, but
A quick question for you guys;
If you had a single dry pair (pair of copper wires originally for phones)
to a remote site that was around 6 miles away, what would you use? We
currently are just extending a T1 line to this site, but 1.5Mbps isn't
cutting it anymore. Unfortunately it's a research
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