Fwd: Rollup: Small City Municipal Broadband

2013-02-02 Thread Scott Helms
I hope I said E7; it's what I meant to say. Yes, I wasn't going to stop at Calix; I'm just juggling budgetary type numbers at the moment; I'll have 3 or 4 quotes before I go to press. It's a 36 month project just to beginning of build, at this point, likely. Assuming I get the gig at all.

Re: Fwd: Rollup: Small City Municipal Broadband

2013-02-02 Thread Brandon Ross
On Sat, 2 Feb 2013, Scott Helms wrote: I'd also talk with Zhone, Allied Telesys, Adtran, and Cisco if for no other reason but get the best pricing you can. I can't believe I'm going to beat Owen to this point, but considering you a building a brand new infrastructure, I'd hope you'd support

Re: Fwd: Rollup: Small City Municipal Broadband

2013-02-02 Thread Scott Helms
That's one of the reasons to look at active ethernet over gpon. There is much more of a chance to do v6 on that gear, especially cisco's Metro ethernet switches. On Feb 2, 2013 5:27 PM, Brandon Ross br...@pobox.com wrote: On Sat, 2 Feb 2013, Scott Helms wrote: I'd also talk with Zhone,

Re: Fwd: Rollup: Small City Municipal Broadband

2013-02-02 Thread Jason Baugher
On Feb 2, 2013 3:33 PM, Scott Helms khe...@zcorum.com wrote: .. This is not correct. DOCSIS is an MPEG stream over QAM or QPSK modulation and there is nothing about it that is compatible to any flavor of PON. In fact if you look at the various CableLabs standards you'll see DPoE (

Re: Fwd: Rollup: Small City Municipal Broadband

2013-02-02 Thread Scott Helms
Jason, Yeah, that's what I figured. There are lots of older PON deployments that used the modulated RF approach. On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 9:03 PM, Jason Baugher ja...@thebaughers.com wrote: On Feb 2, 2013 3:33 PM, Scott Helms khe...@zcorum.com wrote: .. This is not correct. DOCSIS

Re: Fwd: Rollup: Small City Municipal Broadband

2013-02-02 Thread Jeff Kell
This has been a fascinating discussion :) While we don't quite qualify as a small city, we do have quite a dispersion of coverage across our residence halls and general campus. There is an ongoing RFP process to build out our own CATV distribution (or more generally, to avoid the resident CATV

Re: Fwd: Rollup: Small City Municipal Broadband

2013-02-02 Thread Tim Jackson
Word to dropping docsis science on NANOG. On Feb 2, 2013 3:34 PM, Scott Helms khe...@zcorum.com wrote: I hope I said E7; it's what I meant to say. Yes, I wasn't going to stop at Calix; I'm just juggling budgetary type numbers at the moment; I'll have 3 or 4 quotes before I go to press.

Re: Fwd: Rollup: Small City Municipal Broadband

2013-02-02 Thread Tim Jackson
What does Cisco shitty metro switches have to do with anything? Haay we have the best shitty metro-e boxes around. We're awesome. On Feb 2, 2013 4:49 PM, Scott Helms khe...@zcorum.com wrote: That's one of the reasons to look at active ethernet over gpon. There is much more of a chance to

Re: Fwd: Rollup: Small City Municipal Broadband

2013-02-02 Thread Jean-Francois Mezei
On 13-02-02 21:29, Scott Helms wrote: Yeah, that's what I figured. There are lots of older PON deployments that used the modulated RF approach. From what I have read, Verizon's FIOS does that. RFoG cable TV for certain frequencies, normal ethernet data for other frequencies, and dedicated