RE: Google Over IPV6

2009-04-01 Thread TJ
AFAIK you have to have native peering with them to be part of the pilot. At least, you did when we signed up. They may have relaxed that since. According to a Google IPv6 talk I attended yesterday, they don't intend to relax that rule. Tunneling ipv6 connectivity over ipv4 is trash

Re: Google Over IPV6

2009-04-01 Thread Joe Abley
On 1 Apr 2009, at 11:19, TJ wrote: You do not (or, atleast I do not :)) have the option of connecting to Google over MPLS, Ethernet, etc. r1.owls#show arp | inc 198.32.245.6 Internet 198.32.245.62 001f.128e.56f2 ARPA FastEthernet0/1 r1.owls#show ipv6 neighbors | inc

Re: Google Over IPV6

2009-03-31 Thread Joel Jaeggli
Nick Hilliard wrote: On 27/03/2009 15:26, Leo Bicknell wrote: AFAIK you have to have native peering with them to be part of the pilot. At least, you did when we signed up. They may have relaxed that since. According to a Google IPv6 talk I attended yesterday, they don't intend to relax

Re: Google Over IPV6

2009-03-31 Thread Matthew Moyle-Croft
Everything is a tunnel... Tube man. Everything is a tube... and Al Gore invented tubes. MMC Nick -- Matthew Moyle-Croft Internode/Agile Peering and Core Networks

Re: Google Over IPV6

2009-03-28 Thread Bernhard Schmidt
Athanasios Douitsis aduit...@gmail.com wrote: Heard that they are somewhat picky about who they -enable. Our campus has had native IPv6 everywhere and upwards all the way to Geant for many years. We are thinking of applying in the hopes that it will boost IPv6 usage. Did you have any

Re: Google Over IPV6

2009-03-27 Thread Peter Dambier
Yes I do. I can use it but sometimes got trouble with teredo. Retry half an hour later works :) ipv6.google.com looks better to me than the IPv4 version does. More comfort. It is worth the trouble with teredo. Peter Robert D. Scott wrote: http://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/

Re: Google Over IPV6

2009-03-27 Thread Nuno Vieira - nfsi telecom
yup... and it is nice, adwords don't work pretty well (or at least on the GeoIP thingie), and i get less publicity to look at :-) --- Nuno Vieira nfsi telecom, lda. nuno.vie...@nfsi.pt Tel. (+351) 21 949 2300 - Fax (+351) 21 949 2301 http://www.nfsi.pt/ - Robert D. Scott rob...@ufl.edu

Re: Google Over IPV6

2009-03-27 Thread Karl Auer
Google over IPv6? This is *not the same thing* as ipv6.google.com. Google over IPv6 is about accessing www.google.com via IPv6. For you to be doing this, you must have IPv6 connectivity and your IPv6 network must meet Google's fairly stringent requirements. Regards, K

Google Over IPV6

2009-03-27 Thread Robert D. Scott
http://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/ http://www.networkworld.com/news/2009/032509-google-ipv6-easy.html Any one making use of Google IPV6? Robert D. Scott rob...@ufl.edu Senior Network Engineer 352-273-0113 Phone CNS - Network Services 352-392-2061 CNS Phone Tree

Re: Google Over IPV6

2009-03-27 Thread Shaun Ewing
On 27/03/09 11:59 PM, Daniel Verlouw dan...@bit.nl wrote: yes. We participate in the Google IPv6 trial program so our recursors get records for www.google.com and so far it's been great, no issues whatsoever. Same. We've been participating since January and haven't had any problems: #

Re: Google Over IPV6

2009-03-27 Thread Daniel Verlouw
On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 09:34 -0400, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: It's working for me, too, though I noticed that tcptraceroute (at least the version I have) doesn't do well with ipv6.google.com. seems to work fine from over here: # tcptraceroute6 www.google.com 80 traceroute to www.google.com

Re: Google Over IPV6

2009-03-27 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:46:50 +0100 Daniel Verlouw dan...@bit.nl wrote: On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 09:34 -0400, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: It's working for me, too, though I noticed that tcptraceroute (at least the version I have) doesn't do well with ipv6.google.com. seems to work fine from

Re: Google Over IPV6

2009-03-27 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 08:18:50AM -0400, Robert D. Scott wrote: Any one making use of Google IPV6? We are in the trial: % traceroute6 -n www.google.com traceroute6 to www.l.google.com (2001:4860:b002::68) from 2001:4f8:3:bb::5, 64 hops max, 12 byte packets 1

Re: Google Over IPV6

2009-03-27 Thread Grzegorz Janoszka
Daniel Verlouw wrote: yes. We participate in the Google IPv6 trial program so our recursors get records for www.google.com and so far it's been great, no issues whatsoever. Same experiences - it just works. dan...@jun1 traceroute www.google.com traceroute6 to www.l.google.com

Re: Google Over IPV6

2009-03-27 Thread Grzegorz Janoszka
Robert D. Scott wrote: When I posted my original note, I was not really looking for end user feedback, but rather is anyone peering V6 with them on either a public fabric or private peer. Any idea if they have native V6 transit, or are tunneling, and to where. No tuneling I think. We have with

RE: Google Over IPV6

2009-03-27 Thread Robert D. Scott
-0421 Cell -Original Message- From: Grzegorz Janoszka [mailto:grzeg...@janoszka.pl] Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 10:55 AM To: Daniel Verlouw Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Google Over IPV6 Daniel Verlouw wrote: yes. We participate in the Google IPv6 trial program so our recursors get

Re: Google Over IPV6

2009-03-27 Thread Rob Evans
When I posted my original note, I was not really looking for end user feedback, but rather is anyone peering V6 with them on either a public fabric or private peer. Any idea if they have native V6 transit, or are tunneling, and to where. They are peering over some IXPs and private peerings

Re: Google Over IPV6

2009-03-27 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 11:03:05AM -0400, Robert D. Scott wrote: When I posted my original note, I was not really looking for end user feedback, but rather is anyone peering V6 with them on either a public fabric or private peer. Any idea if they have native V6 transit, or

Re: Google Over IPV6

2009-03-27 Thread Athanasios Douitsis
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Daniel Verlouw dan...@bit.nl wrote: On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 08:18 -0400, Robert D. Scott wrote: Any one making use of Google IPV6? yes. We participate in the Google IPv6 trial program so our recursors get records for www.google.com and so far it's been

Re: Google Over IPV6

2009-03-27 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 27/03/2009 15:26, Leo Bicknell wrote: AFAIK you have to have native peering with them to be part of the pilot. At least, you did when we signed up. They may have relaxed that since. According to a Google IPv6 talk I attended yesterday, they don't intend to relax that rule. Tunneling

Re: Google Over IPV6

2009-03-27 Thread Charles Wyble
Steven M. Bellovin wrote: On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:46:50 +0100 Daniel Verlouw dan...@bit.nl wrote: On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 09:34 -0400, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: It's working for me, too, though I noticed that tcptraceroute (at least the version I have) doesn't do well with ipv6.google.com.

Re: Google Over IPV6

2009-03-27 Thread Stephen Sprunk
Robert D. Scott wrote: http://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/ http://www.networkworld.com/news/2009/032509-google-ipv6-easy.html It's relatively easy to make _your own_ apps (i.e. ones you have the source for) support IPv6. Most companies, though, are completely reliant on their vendors,

Re: Google Over IPV6

2009-03-27 Thread Peter Dambier
sure you are using Google over IPv6? This is *not the same thing* as ipv6.google.com. Google over IPv6 is about accessing www.google.com via IPv6. For you to be doing this, you must have IPv6 connectivity and your IPv6 network must meet Google's fairly stringent requirements. Regards, K

Re: Google Over IPV6

2009-03-27 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
the IPv4 version does. More comfort. It is worth the trouble with teredo. Um, are you sure you are using Google over IPv6? This is *not the same thing* as ipv6.google.com. Google over IPv6 is about accessing www.google.com via IPv6. For you to be doing this, you must have IPv6

Re: Google Over IPV6

2009-03-27 Thread Mark Andrews
version does. More comfort. It is worth the trouble with teredo. Um, are you sure you are using Google over IPv6? This is *not the same thing* as ipv6.google.com. Google over IPv6 is about accessing www.google.com via IPv6. For you to be doing this, you must have IPv6 connectivity

Re: Google Over IPV6

2009-03-27 Thread Florian Weimer
* Robert D. Scott: When I posted my original note, I was not really looking for end user feedback, but rather is anyone peering V6 with them on either a public fabric or private peer. Any idea if they have native V6 transit, or are tunneling, and to where. Google seems to aim at Tier 1

Re: Google Over IPV6

2009-03-27 Thread Nathan Ward
On 27/03/2009, at 11:20 AM, Florian Weimer wrote: Google seems to aim at Tier 1 status for IPv6. No transit, no tunneling. That seems to be the case, yep. It's an interesting plan. On 27/03/2009, at 8:03 AM, Robert D. Scott wrote: Their press would indicate that more than www is IPV6.

Re: Google Over IPV6

2009-03-27 Thread Kevin Oberman
native V6 transit, or are tunneling, and to where. Google seems to aim at Tier 1 status for IPv6. No transit, no tunneling. From their web page at http://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/: To qualify for Google over IPv6, your network must have good IPv6 connectivity to Google. Multiple direct