On 17 Mar 2017, at 6:07 AM, Mel Beckman wrote:
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> John,
>
> It's a California State government agency. Does that make a difference?
Yes - very much so. (US Government has interesting procedures stemming
from the US Constitution for handling the release of any rights or interest,
but the same
John,
It's a California State government agency. Does that make a difference?
-mel
> On Mar 16, 2017, at 9:53 PM, John Curran wrote:
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> Mel -
>
> US Government agencies should contact GSA (or DoD/DISA, for those in
> military/intelligence communities) for advice on these matters.
>
> Th
Mel -
US Government agencies should contact GSA (or DoD/DISA, for those in
military/intelligence communities) for advice on these matters.
Thanks,
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
> On Mar 17, 2017, at 12:12 AM, Mel Beckman wrote:
>
> I have a government agency client with a number
On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 11:13 PM, Mel Beckman wrote:
> Their space is legacy, and they don't pay ARIN. They declined the offer to
> pay ARIN some time ago :)
>
Ah, well good news and bad news.
The good news is that they can do whatever they want with their space
except make ARIN recognize a tra
Jimmy,
Their ARIN record says Direct Assignment rather than Direct Allocation, so it
does appear ARIN considers them an end user. Also, I see no prior SWIPs, so
possibly they never SWIPed their previous customers. I'll have to give ARIN a
call.
-mel
> On Mar 16, 2017, at 6:08 PM, Jimmy Hess
Their space is legacy, and they don't pay ARIN. They declined the offer to pay
ARIN some time ago :)
-mel
> On Mar 16, 2017, at 5:50 PM, Bob Evans wrote:
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> Simple to check. Most likely legacy space if early 90s. Enter them in the
> ARIN search box and learn more. And note if the agency is
This agency already is an ISP - they started out as an ISP for other government
agencies. But I'll verify their ARIN records to be sure ARIN sees it that way,
since they launched as an ISP back in the 1990s.
-mel
> On Mar 16, 2017, at 5:44 PM, William Herrin wrote:
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>> On Thu, Mar 16, 2017
On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Mel Beckman wrote:
> Bill,
> Is there a technically a restriction preventing swiping of this IP space when
> it's being rented? How is that different from an ISP swiping its customers
> that are renting bandwidth?
This is a difference between an "Allocated" blo
Simple to check. Most likely legacy space if early 90s. Enter them in the
ARIN search box and learn more. And note if the agency is paying arin
annually? Possible?
Thank You
Bob Evans
CTO
> I have a government agency client with a number of /24s that they acquired
> back in the 1990s when they
On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 8:39 PM, Mel Beckman wrote:
> Is there a technically a restriction preventing swiping of this IP space when
> it's being rented? How is that different from an ISP swiping its customers
> that are renting bandwidth?
Hi Mel,
You'd have to ask ARIN to be sure, but I belei
Bill,
Is there a technically a restriction preventing swiping of this IP space when
it's being rented? How is that different from an ISP swiping its customers
that are renting bandwidth?
-mel via cell
> On Mar 16, 2017, at 5:28 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
>
> On 3/16/17 17:19, William Herrin w
On 3/16/17 17:19, William Herrin wrote:
There's probably a legal mess around a government entity renting IP
addresses. If the entity is registered as an end user (instead of as
an ISP) then such rentals might also be considered fraudulent.
On a purely pragmatic level, it's also an exceedingly ba
> There's probably a legal mess around a government entity renting IP
> addresses. If the entity is registered as an end user (instead of as
> an ISP) then such rentals might also be considered fraudulent.
On a purely pragmatic level, it's also an exceedingly bad idea to let
a private party who ma
On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 7:12 PM, Mel Beckman wrote:
> I have a government agency client with a number of /24s that they acquired
> back in the
> 1990s when they operated as an ISP for other agencies. They are interested in
> renting
> or selling these addresses. Are there any existing ARIN or ot
I have a government agency client with a number of /24s that they acquired back
in the 1990s when they operated as an ISP for other agencies. They are
interested in renting or selling these addresses. Are there any existing ARIN
or other legal restrictions against government organizations doing
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