On Mon, Jan 05, 2015 at 08:40:52AM -0600, John Kristoff wrote:
On Thu, 25 Dec 2014 19:21:34 -0500
Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote:
Cisco as the basis of networking material? Does nobody use Comer,
Stallings, or Tannenbaum as basic texts anymore?
I currently use a Comer
On Thu, 25 Dec 2014 19:21:34 -0500
Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote:
Cisco as the basis of networking material? Does nobody use Comer,
Stallings, or Tannenbaum as basic texts anymore?
I currently use a Comer book. I've also used a Tannenbaum book in the
past, but not recently.
Subject: Re: How our young colleagues are being educated Date: Fri, Dec 26,
2014 at 02:56:40AM -0500 Quoting William Herrin (b...@herrin.us):
In the real world you often assign a /32 to a loopback address on each
router and make all of the serial interfaces borrow that address (ip
Subject: Re: How our young colleagues are being educated Date: Wed, Dec 24,
2014 at 11:40:48AM -0500 Quoting Scott Morris (s...@emanon.com):
Now, as a side, one problem that I often have with various academic-based
courses is that the people who teach them often don¹t have enough
real
I am a university student that has just completed the first term of
the first year of a Computer Systems and Networks course. Apart from a
really out of place MATH module that did trig but not binary, it has
been reasonably well run so far. The binary is covered in a different
module, just not
Cisco as the basis of networking material? Does nobody use Comer,
Stallings, or Tannenbaum as basic texts anymore?
Miles Fidelman
Mike Jones wrote:
I am a university student that has just completed the first term of
the first year of a Computer Systems and Networks course. Apart from a
really
I used Stallings a couple years ago. Cisco is not the basis of
networking. It is the basis for TCP/IP.
-Grant
On Thu, Dec 25, 2014 at 6:21 PM, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net
wrote:
Cisco as the basis of networking material? Does nobody use Comer,
Stallings, or Tannenbaum as basic
Well... to be accurate, and just a tad pedantic, the basis for TCP/IP is:
A Protocol for Packet Network Intercommunication, Vinton G. Cerf
Robert E. Kahn, IEEE Trans on Comms, Vol Com-22, No 5 May 1974
Miles Fidelman
Grant Ridder wrote:
I used Stallings a couple years ago. Cisco is not the
.
Historical references in a nutshell; even in today's coursework IMO are still
relevant.
./Randy
- Original Message -
From: Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net
To:
Cc: nanog@nanog.org nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 4:21 PM
Subject: Re: How our young colleagues are being
The Cisco Networking Academy program was used throughout my
CEGEP(End of high-school/first college year equivalent in the US)
education in Quebec. There was no deviation from the course work and the
aim was to get the student CCNA certified at the end.
On 12/25/2014 7:21 PM, Miles Fidelman
Well let start with: Happy Holidays.
In my line of work anyone with a CCNA get put at the bottom of the pile =D
We're looking for proactive associates and found that applicants which
present themselves as a CCNA engineer foremost are only just that: Someone
that could follow the course and
Merry Christmas! (Even if slightly late...)
I absolutely agree. The certification by itself doesn't prove much
beyond a passing interest in networking and an ability to retain a fair
amount of information. I suspect it's mostly a question of creating some
kind of standard to judge applicants.
On 14-12-22 04:13, Javier J wrote:
Not only are they skimming over new technologies such as BGP, MPLS and the
fundamentals of TCP/IP that run the internet and the networks of the world,
they were focusing on ATM , Frame Relay and other technologies that are on
their way out
My first
to networking subjects!
Scott
-Original Message-
From: Dennis Bohn b...@adelphi.edu
Date: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 at 2:40 PM
To: Ken Chase m...@sizone.org
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: How our young colleagues are being educated
On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Ken Chase m
In addition to my 9 to 5 job of network engineer, I teach evening courses
at a US community college (for you non-USers, it's a place for the first
2-years of post-secondary education, typically before proceeding to a full
4-year university). The community college I work at participates in the
On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Ken Chase m...@sizone.org wrote:
Learning how to do CIDR math is a major core component of the coursework?
Im
thinking that this is about a 30 minute module in the material, once you
know
binary, powers of 2 and some addition and subtraction (all of which is
to be pretty much the same anywhere,
just with some different applications used potentially.
-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Kinkaid, Kyle
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 10:38 AM
To: Javier J
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: How our young colleagues
Subject: Re: How our young colleagues are being educated
In addition to my 9 to 5 job of network engineer, I teach evening courses
at a US community college (for you non-USers, it's a place for the first
2-years of post-secondary education, typically before proceeding to a full
4-year
Last time I taught, I lectured (senior-level 3-credit elective) on calculating
the efficiency of Ethernet and why it was no good above 10Mbps.
On Dec 23, 2014, at 15:29, Mike Hammett na...@ics-il.net wrote:
At the time, though, Ethernet belonged within a building. If you were wanting
to
@nanog.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 9:38:02 AM
Subject: Re: How our young colleagues are being educated
In addition to my 9 to 5 job of network engineer, I teach evening courses
at a US community college (for you non-USers, it's a place for the first
2-years of post-secondary education
: 12/23/2014 10:40 AM
To: Javier J jav...@advancedmachines.us
Cc: nanog@nanog.org nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: How our young colleagues are being educated
In addition to my 9 to 5 job of network engineer, I teach evening courses
at a US community college (for you non-USers, it's a place
Dear NANOG Members,
It has come to my attention, that higher learning institutions in North
America are doing our young future colleagues a disservice.
I recently ran into a student of Southern New Hampshire University enrolled
in the Networking/Telecom Management course and was shocked by what
Subject: How our young colleagues are being educated Date: Mon, Dec 22,
2014 at 04:13:42AM -0500 Quoting Javier J (jav...@advancedmachines.us):
Dear NANOG Members,
It has come to my attention, that higher learning institutions in North
America are doing our young future colleagues
*shameless plug*
Usually not a topic for this list, and together with two co-founders we
started an online university last to address some of the issues we saw with
higher education. We currently have approval from the state of Vermont to
give college credit, credits earned through Oplerno
On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 4:13 AM, Javier J jav...@advancedmachines.us wrote:
I recently ran into a student of Southern New Hampshire University enrolled
in the Networking/Telecom Management course and was shocked by what I
learned.
Am I crazy? Am I ranting? Doesn't this need to be addressed?
-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of William Herrin
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 6:54 AM
To: Javier J
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: How our young colleagues are being educated
On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 4:13 AM, Javier J jav...@advancedmachines.us wrote:
I recently ran
On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 04:13:42 -0500, Javier J said:
student graduates. They are teaching classful routing and skimming over
CIDR. Is this indicative of the state of our education system as a whole?
Did the standard packaged Cisco curriculum finally drop mention of
Class A/B/C and go CIDR?
On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 4:13 AM, Javier J jav...@advancedmachines.us wrote:
Not only are they skimming over new technologies such as BGP, MPLS and the
fundamentals of TCP/IP that run the internet and the networks of the world,
they were focusing on ATM , Frame Relay and other technologies that
* Valdis Kletnieks:
On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 04:13:42 -0500, Javier J said:
student graduates. They are teaching classful routing and skimming over
CIDR. Is this indicative of the state of our education system as a whole?
Did the standard packaged Cisco curriculum finally drop mention of
Class
On 12/22/2014 11:11, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
Did the standard packaged Cisco curriculum finally drop mention of
Class A/B/C and go CIDR?
For the most part yes. They still reference it for historical purposes
but otherwise it is all VLSM/CIDR.
--
Sadiq Saif
Learning how to do CIDR math is a major core component of the coursework? Im
thinking that this is about a 30 minute module in the material, once you know
binary, powers of 2 and some addition and subtraction (all of which is taught
in most schools by when, first year highschool?) you should be
On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 15:31:52 -0500, Ken Chase said:
Why is CIDR such an important coursework component? Or is it just a shibboleth
It's partially like a brown MM backstage at a Van Halen concert - if their
coursework was so pitifully out of date it wasn't covered, you better start
wondering
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