Re: How threading works (was Re: Root Cause Re: 202401102221.AYC Re: Streamline The CG-NAT Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block)

2024-01-14 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "William Herrin" > Respectfully, your MUA is not the only MUA. Others work differently. > > GMail, for example, follows the message IDs as you say but assumes > that if you change the subject line in your reply (more than adding > "Re:") then you intend to

Re: How threading works (was Re: Root Cause Re: 202401102221.AYC Re: Streamline The CG-NAT Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block)

2024-01-14 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "Abraham Y. Chen" > Hi, Bryan: [ ... ] > 2)    From the Wikipedia explanation of RFC5822, I as a ThunderBird > user, really have nothing to do with the Message-ID that it puts on my > MSGs nor how does it make use of such to display the threads. And, my >

Re: How threading works (was Re: Root Cause Re: 202401102221.AYC Re: Streamline The CG-NAT Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block)

2024-01-14 Thread Christopher Hawker
Bryan: > Gmail is therefore in violation of the RFC5822. It's quite clear how it should work per the RFC appendix. Actually, no it's not. RFC5322 reads: "This specification is not intended to dictate ... any of the characteristics of user interface programs that create or read messages". 5822

Re: How threading works (was Re: Root Cause Re: 202401102221.AYC Re: Streamline The CG-NAT Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block)

2024-01-14 Thread Tom Beecher
> > Gmail is therefore in violation of the RFC5822. It's quite clear how it > should work per the RFC appendix. > Well, no. Asterisks added for emphasis. This specification is intended as a definition of what message >content format is to be passed between systems. Though some message >

Re: How threading works (was Re: Root Cause Re: 202401102221.AYC Re: Streamline The CG-NAT Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block)

2024-01-14 Thread James R Cutler
On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 12:58 PM Bryan Fields mailto:br...@bryanfields.net>> wrote: > On 1/12/24 3:04 PM, Mu wrote: >> Would it be possible for you to reply in-thread, rather than creating a new >> thread with a new subject line every time you reply to someone? >> >> Trying to follow the

Re: How threading works (was Re: Root Cause Re: 202401102221.AYC Re: Streamline The CG-NAT Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block)

2024-01-14 Thread Giorgio Bonfiglio via NANOG
> I am so glad that you decided to come out to be a well-informed referee. > For more than one year, I have been accused of breaking the eMail etiquette > established by a standard, yet never identified. It seriously distracted our > attention from the topic of essence. You now have

Re: How threading works (was Re: Root Cause Re: 202401102221.AYC Re: Streamline The CG-NAT Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block)

2024-01-14 Thread Abraham Y. Chen
Hi, Bryan: 1)    "  ...  Gmail is therefore in violation of the RFC5822. ... I think it's quite unreasonable to expect others to compensate for an MUA which doesn't implement 25+ year old standards properly. ...  ":     I am so glad that you decided to come out to be a well-informed

Re: How threading works (was Re: Root Cause Re: 202401102221.AYC Re: Streamline The CG-NAT Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block)

2024-01-14 Thread Bryan Fields
On 1/14/24 1:01 AM, William Herrin wrote: > Respectfully, your MUA is not the only MUA. Others work differently. Bill, I use multiple MUA's, among them Thunderbird, mutt, kmail and even the zimbra web interface. All follow and implement RFC5822 as it pertains to threading. Note, threading works

Re: How threading works (was Re: Root Cause Re: 202401102221.AYC Re: Streamline The CG-NAT Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block)

2024-01-13 Thread William Herrin
On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 12:58 PM Bryan Fields wrote: > On 1/12/24 3:04 PM, Mu wrote: > > Would it be possible for you to reply in-thread, rather than creating a new > > thread with a new subject line every time you reply to someone? > > > > Trying to follow the conversation becomes very

Re: How threading works (was Re: Root Cause Re: 202401102221.AYC Re: Streamline The CG-NAT Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block)

2024-01-13 Thread Joel Esler
Things you have to remember.  Not everyone uses thunderbird.  Not every mail client threads like thunderbird.  — Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 13, 2024, at 17:39, Abraham Y. Chen wrote: Hi, Bryan: 0)    Thank you so much for coming to the rescue!!!

Re: How threading works (was Re: Root Cause Re: 202401102221.AYC Re: Streamline The CG-NAT Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block)

2024-01-13 Thread Abraham Y. Chen
Hi, Bryan: 0)    Thank you so much for coming to the rescue!!! 1)    Basically trained as a radio frequency hardware engineer, I am only capable of using software as tools necessary for my work. For eMail, I have been using ThunderBird ever since its beginning. With my own time-stamping

How threading works (was Re: Root Cause Re: 202401102221.AYC Re: Streamline The CG-NAT Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block)

2024-01-13 Thread Bryan Fields
On 1/12/24 3:04 PM, Mu wrote: Would it be possible for you to reply in-thread, rather than creating a new thread with a new subject line every time you reply to someone? Trying to follow the conversation becomes very difficult for no reason. Threading has nothing to do with subject lines.