Re: I got a live one! - Spam source

2009-11-26 Thread Steve Linford
On 25 Nov 2009, at 04:22, Russell Myba wrote: Looks like of our customers has decided to turn their /24 into a nice little space spewing machine. Doesn't seem like just one compromised host. Reverse DNS for most of the /24 are suspicious domains. Each domain used in the message-id

Re: I got a live one! - Spam source

2009-11-26 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 09:25:27AM -0800, Michael Peddemors wrote: I here people saying that they don't publish whois information because they don't want the email's made public. Okay, at least the registered company name, or individual who presented the ID should be there. Without

Re: I got a live one! - Spam source

2009-11-26 Thread Michael Peddemors
Not to keep endlessly on this thread, but again with reference to good whois record keeping and bad.. 64.21.87.136: mx2.yvzus.com 64.21.87.141: mx3.xmabs.com 64.21.87.168: mx5.zgows.com 64.21.87.170: mx5.zntas.com GOOD We know the activity is probably limited to: Found a referral to

Re: I got a live one! - Spam source

2009-11-25 Thread Truman Boyes
Interesting scenario ... but would be far more interesting to us if you share the /24? Truman On 25/11/2009, at 3:07 PM, Russell Myba wrote: I'm confused. Who are you billing and for what services? Let's say our direct customer is CustomerA. They seem to buy rackspace from

Re: I got a live one! - Spam source

2009-11-25 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 10:22:36PM -0500, Russell Myba wrote: Looks like of our customers has decided to turn their /24 into a nice little space spewing machine. Doesn't seem like just one compromised host. 1. This is possibly/probably better on spam-l. 2. This is a very common operational

Re: I got a live one! - Spam source

2009-11-25 Thread Eric Brunner-Williams
Russell, My personal inclination would be to look for what legit entities are provisioning them with critical resources and what margins they appear to be paying. For DNS resources, the domains, to identify registry preference, probably a simple volume correlation, and the registrars, which

Re: I got a live one! - Spam source

2009-11-25 Thread Jon Lewis
On Wed, 25 Nov 2009, Rich Kulawiec wrote: On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 10:22:36PM -0500, Russell Myba wrote: Looks like of our customers has decided to turn their /24 into a nice little space spewing machine. Doesn't seem like just one compromised host. 1. This is possibly/probably better on

Re: I got a live one! - Spam source

2009-11-25 Thread Russell Myba
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 2:17 AM, Paul Ferguson fergdawgs...@gmail.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Michael Peddemors mich...@linuxmagic.com wrote: Depends on the activity, but this re-iterates the importance of maintaining correct

Re: I got a live one! - Spam source

2009-11-25 Thread Michael Peddemors
Could you elaborate on what constitutes correct swip information? Sure, you just opened the door to my opinions on this :) -- WRONG -- OrgName:FortressITX OrgID: FORTR-5 Address:100 Delawanna Ave City: Clifton StateProv: NJ PostalCode:

Re: I got a live one! - Spam source

2009-11-25 Thread John Peach
On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:25:27 -0800 Michael Peddemors mich...@linuxmagic.com wrote: Could you elaborate on what constitutes correct swip information? Sure, you just opened the door to my opinions on this :) hmmm - odd that the 2 you chose to show as wrong, both feature highly in my

Re: I got a live one! - Spam source

2009-11-25 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Michael Peddemors mich...@linuxmagic.com wrote: Could you elaborate on what constitutes correct swip information? Sure, you just opened the door to my opinions on this :) Dysfunctional rwhois servers sounds more like general brokenness than malice. The

I got a live one! - Spam source

2009-11-24 Thread Russell Myba
Looks like of our customers has decided to turn their /24 into a nice little space spewing machine. Doesn't seem like just one compromised host. Reverse DNS for most of the /24 are suspicious domains. Each domain used in the message-id forwards to a single .net which lists their mailing address

Re: I got a live one! - Spam source

2009-11-24 Thread Paul Ferguson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Russell Myba rusm...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like of our customers has decided to turn their /24 into a nice little space spewing machine. Doesn't seem like just one compromised host. Reverse DNS for most of the

Re: I got a live one! - Spam source

2009-11-24 Thread Jon Lewis
On Tue, 24 Nov 2009, Russell Myba wrote: Looks like of our customers has decided to turn their /24 into a nice little space spewing machine. Doesn't seem like just one compromised host. Reverse DNS for most of the /24 are suspicious domains. Each domain used in the message-id forwards to a

Re: I got a live one! - Spam source

2009-11-24 Thread Gadi Evron
Russell Myba wrote: Looks like of our customers has decided to turn their /24 into a nice little space spewing machine. Doesn't seem like just one compromised host. Reverse DNS for most of the /24 are suspicious domains. Each domain used in the message-id forwards to a single .net which lists

Re: I got a live one! - Spam source

2009-11-24 Thread Russell Myba
I'm confused. Who are you billing and for what services? Let's say our direct customer is CustomerA. They seem to buy rackspace from BusinessB. CustomerA seem to retain BusinessC for IT Solutions even though all three entities purport to be IT solutions providers. BusinessC came into the

Re: I got a live one! - Spam source

2009-11-24 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 8:52 AM, Russell Myba rusm...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like of our customers has decided to turn their /24 into a nice little space spewing machine.  Doesn't seem like just one compromised host. Reverse DNS for most of the /24 are suspicious domains.  Each domain used in

Re: I got a live one! - Spam source

2009-11-24 Thread Michael Peddemors
On November 24, 2009, Russell Myba wrote: Spamhaus is the first one that comes to mind. From what I understand of your description, this doesn't sound all that different from typical spammer behavior. Multiple layers of indirection seems to be the latest thing for spammers. Depends on

Re: I got a live one! - Spam source

2009-11-24 Thread Paul Ferguson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Michael Peddemors mich...@linuxmagic.com wrote: Depends on the activity, but this re-iterates the importance of maintaining correct SWIP, so that only the offenders get listed, and not bordering customers.

Re: I got a live one! - Spam source

2009-11-24 Thread Justin Shore
Russell Myba wrote: Let's say our direct customer is CustomerA. They seem to buy rackspace from BusinessB. CustomerA seem to retain BusinessC for IT Solutions even though all three entities purport to be IT solutions providers. BusinessC came into the picture after the spamming started saying