Re: IPAM DDI Software, Subscriber Management, CMDB and Per Customer VLANs

2014-05-15 Thread Mark Tinka
On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 06:09:02 PM Dave Bell wrote: > VRFs are not horrible hacks. Except when operators stress them to the limit by running the full Internet table inside them. But this is one of those religious arguments. Mark. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed mess

Re: IPAM DDI Software, Subscriber Management, CMDB and Per Customer VLANs

2014-05-14 Thread Dave Bell
It depends on the service you are providing. If its fully managed up to the customer premises, I fail to see how you can get away without knowing what addressing the customer is using. On 14 May 2014 17:16, wrote: > On Wed, 14 May 2014 17:09:02 +0100, Dave Bell said: > > > People use VRF's to pro

Re: IPAM DDI Software, Subscriber Management, CMDB and Per Customer VLANs

2014-05-14 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 14 May 2014 17:09:02 +0100, Dave Bell said: > People use VRF's to provide Layer3 VPNs to customers. Customers > typically use overlapping address space in their networks. That's the customer's problem inside their networks. If you have overlapping address space in *your own greenfield* n

Re: IPAM DDI Software, Subscriber Management, CMDB and Per Customer VLANs

2014-05-14 Thread Dave Bell
On 14 May 2014 16:14, wrote: > On 2014-05-13 16:37, Kyle Leissner wrote: > RFC >> >> 1918, > > > ewww. v6 sir! Greenfield network and everything. > >> VRF, Overlapping Address Space, > > > ewww again. Those are horrible hacks, v6 all the things. People use VRF's to provide Layer3 VPNs to custom

Re: IPAM DDI Software, Subscriber Management, CMDB and Per Customer VLANs

2014-05-14 Thread charles
On 2014-05-13 16:37, Kyle Leissner wrote: I would like recommendations on the following software/hardware elements required to run an access network. Assume you are building a greenfield network using a combination of access technologies such as DSL, GPON, AE, and WiFi. What a timely thread! W

Re: IPAM DDI Software, Subscriber Management, CMDB and Per Customer VLANs

2014-05-14 Thread Tarko Tikan
hey, Subscriber Management/BRAS/BNG: Redback was the big player back in the day, but I believe they are no longer. Juniper has their Subscriber Management feature pack on their MX routers, and Cisco has their Broadband Network Gateway on their ASR routers. Besides these two vendors I am not s

IPAM DDI Software, Subscriber Management, CMDB and Per Customer VLANs

2014-05-13 Thread Kyle Leissner
I would like recommendations on the following software/hardware elements required to run an access network. Assume you are building a greenfield network using a combination of access technologies such as DSL, GPON, AE, and WiFi. IPAM / DDI Solution: Needs full support for IPv6, Customer VLANs, R