RE: [NANOG] IPv4 subnets for lease?

2016-01-06 Thread Paul Stewart
2016 12:35 PM To: Fredrik Widell Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: [NANOG] IPv4 subnets for lease? Is there anyone who leases to companies in the US? On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 4:59 AM, Fredrik Widell wrote: > On Fri, 18 Dec 2015, Nick Ellermann wrote: > > > Hi. > > We lease /24

Re: [NANOG] IPv4 subnets for lease?

2016-01-05 Thread Javier J
Is there anyone who leases to companies in the US? On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 4:59 AM, Fredrik Widell wrote: > On Fri, 18 Dec 2015, Nick Ellermann wrote: > > > Hi. > > We lease /24's or more to customers since many years, but as someone later > in the thread commented, > spammers will use this oppo

Re: [NANOG] IPv4 subnets for lease?

2015-12-22 Thread Fredrik Widell
On Fri, 18 Dec 2015, Nick Ellermann wrote: Hi. We lease /24's or more to customers since many years, but as someone later in the thread commented, spammers will use this opportunity if they can, so we limit our customers to Sweden nowadays, and always check their earlier reputation before lea

Re: IPv4 subnets for lease?

2015-12-21 Thread Martin Hannigan
On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 9:31 PM, Nick Ellermann wrote: > We have customers asking to lease IP space for BGP transit with us and > other peers. But they are struggling to get at a minimum even a Class C, > even though they have their own ASN. We don't have large amounts of free > IPv4 space to lea

Re: IPv4 subnets for lease?

2015-12-19 Thread bzs
Although I realize it's a practical matter I find it fairly amazing that IPv4 blocks will be stigmatized as spam infected and hence worthless or nearly so. Talk about giving in to "terrorists" (I use that word metaphorically.) Something to note next time someone asks me what the actual financial

Re: IPv4 subnets for lease?

2015-12-18 Thread Bob Evans
I see it different than Lee ... because, there are no new ipv4 addresses they are all used. I have seen the same spam issue with IP space that is sold. So be careful. I have been involved in both leasing and purchasing IPv4 space. Like everything else you want to check the mileage/usage and look f

Re: IPv4 subnets for lease?

2015-12-18 Thread Lee Howard
Leasing is ill-advised; the addresses will be unsellable once the spammers are through with them. Really, thereĀ¹s no other reason to lease. If you want to buy or sell addresses in the ARIN region, some of the facilitators at https://www.arin.net/resources/transfer_listing/facilitator_list.html ar

IPv4 subnets for lease?

2015-12-17 Thread Nick Ellermann
We have customers asking to lease IP space for BGP transit with us and other peers. But they are struggling to get at a minimum even a Class C, even though they have their own ASN. We don't have large amounts of free IPv4 space to lease out to a single customer in most cases anymore. Hope to at