On 2011-3-2, at 5:03, JC Dill wrote:
You can use their reply to an IPv6 request as a bit of a bozo filter
A senior technical person at my local (consumer) ISP here just told me that
their IPv6 plans are at an early stage and lots of work has to be done
before they can start testing. (I asked
On Wednesday 02 March 2011 03:03:22 JC Dill wrote:
I *love* using Bozo filters. Anytime you can trick companies into
revealing their true colors, you are a step ahead in the game.
jc
AKA the Brown MM gambit.
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On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 3:16 PM, Franck Martin fra...@genius.com wrote:
Don't forget there is no commission for the salesperson to enable IPv6 for
you, so definitively they are not interested and you asking them to deal with
the issue, will just lower their pay at the end of the month because
On 02/03/11 2:55 AM, Alexander Harrowell wrote:
On Wednesday 02 March 2011 03:03:22 JC Dill wrote:
I *love* using Bozo filters. Anytime you can trick companies into
revealing their true colors, you are a step ahead in the game
AKA the Brown MM gambit.
Exactly!
Per Wikipedia:
Fairly major global network provider likes to call themselves a Tier
1. Asking about native IPv6 in one of their colo facilities in the UK.
They say their US facilities won't be v6 capable until Q4 2011. The UK
rep acted like it was the first he'd ever heard of it and implied we
were the very
On 03/01/2011 07:39 AM, George Bonser wrote:
Fairly major global network provider likes to call themselves a Tier
1. Asking about native IPv6 in one of their colo facilities in the UK.
They say their US facilities won't be v6 capable until Q4 2011. The UK
rep acted like it was the first he'd
On Tue, 2011-03-01 at 07:46 -1000, Paul Graydon wrote:
Having worked both inside and outside the ISP industry, I wouldn't
necessarily trust a salesman to know a DSL from a leased line, let alone
IPv6 vs IPv4, nor to have remembered being asked about it before.
That's stuff for pre-sales
We've been the first for one of the oldest and best known Tier 1's in
Metro Atlanta for quite some time
It only took them 3 weeks to get the order right in their billing system
and another 4.5 months to get it working.
And I agree with the previous poster that in this day and age, it is
Do please let me know which major global network provider this is. Off-list if
you prefer.
Christian
On 1 Mar 2011, at 18:39, George Bonser wrote:
Fairly major global network provider likes to call themselves a Tier
1. Asking about native IPv6 in one of their colo facilities in the UK.
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- Original Message -
From: George Bonser gbon...@seven.com
To: NANOG list nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Tuesday, 1 March, 2011 9:39:33 AM
Subject: IPv6? Why, you are the first one to ask for it!
Fairly major global network provider likes to call themselves a Tier
1. Asking about native
On 2011-03-01 22:16, Franck Martin wrote:
Don't forget there is no commission for the salesperson to enable
IPv6 for you, so definitively they are not interested and you asking
them to deal with the issue, will just lower their pay at the end of
the month because they could not use this
Perhaps that
particular
salesperson had not but he/she should have been briefed on it and
should
be familiar enough with deployment status to be able to talk
intelligently and honestly with a potential customer.
I could buy that if it weren't for the fact that it took two days to come
- Original Message -
From: Jeroen Massar jer...@unfix.org
To: Franck Martin fra...@genius.com
Cc: George Bonser gbon...@seven.com, NANOG list nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Tuesday, 1 March, 2011 1:41:45 PM
Subject: Re: IPv6? Why, you are the first one to ask for it!
On 2011-03-01 22:16
To: George Bonser
Cc: NANOG list
Subject: Re: IPv6? Why, you are the first one to ask for it!
Don't forget there is no commission for the salesperson to enable IPv6 for you,
so definitively they are not interested and you asking them to deal with the
issue, will just lower their pay at the end
The board to the managers/sales people: Please explain us again why we
can't have more customers?
Let's be real for a second, there are plenty of backbone-ish companies that
have been around long enough to accumulate tons, and tons of IPv4 space.
I remember an old SP that used to give every
In message d338d1613b32624285bb321a5cf3db25130d83a...@ginga.ai.net, Deepak Ja
in writes:
The board to the managers/sales people: Please explain us again why we
can't have more customers?
Let's be real for a second, there are plenty of backbone-ish companies
that have been around long
- Original Message -
From: George Bonser gbon...@seven.com
I could buy that if it weren't for the fact that it took two days to
come back with that answer. An off the cuff wow, nobody has ever
asked me that before, I need to check on it would have been
understandable for a new rep.
On 01/03/11 12:07 PM, Jake Khuon wrote:
And I agree with the previous poster that in this day and age, it is
unlikely that the sales group of a global provider would not have
encountered such a request. If anything, they should have been hit with
those kinds of requests starting ten years ago.
I guess I'll plug this Wikipedia page again:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_IPv6_support_by_major_transit_providers
--
Jeff S Wheeler j...@inconcepts.biz
Sr Network Operator / Innovative Network Concepts
On Tue, 1 Mar 2011, George Bonser wrote:
Note to providers: That might have worked a couple of years ago but
when we hear that today, we know it is false. Please be honest in your
responses to that question. If you aren't going to deploy it for
another year or two, just say so. The notion
- [mailto:bhmc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 6:17 PM
To: 'Franck Martin'; 'George Bonser'
Cc: 'NANOG list'
Subject: RE: IPv6? Why, you are the first one to ask for it!
I don't know about that.
Even though the carriers (USA) I've talked to are having trouble presenting
native IPv6
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