Re: IPv6 - a noobs prespective

2011-06-14 Thread Octavio Alvarez
On Wed, 09 Feb 2011 03:00:27 -0800, Robert Lusby nano...@gmail.com wrote: I am however *terrified* of making that move. There is so many new phrases, words, things to think about etc You fears will significantly lower after you set up a separate lab and play with it. With something as simple

Re: IPv6 - a noobs prespective

2011-06-14 Thread James Harr
Really -- just go play with it. I started by setting up a tunnelbroker.net account at home. A majority of the packet slapping functionality of routers work just fine. It's when you get into things like applications, load balancing, NAT64/DNS64 where things start to get a little buggy. And you'll

Re: IPv6 - a noobs prespective

2011-02-10 Thread Roland Perry
: IPv6 - a noobs prespective With the recent allocation of the last existing IPv4 /8s (which now kind of puts pressure on going v6), it would be wonderful if at the next couple of NANOGs if there could be an IPv6 for dummies session or two :) -Mike On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Jack Bates jba

Re: IPv6 - a noobs prespective

2011-02-10 Thread Daniel Roesen
On Wed, Feb 09, 2011 at 03:43:35PM -0500, Jared Mauch wrote: Jack (hates all routers equally, doesn't matter who makes it) Welcome to the life of being a network operator. :) That's called carrier grade these days by all those vendors! :-) SCNR, Daniel -- CLUE-RIPE -- Jabber:

IPv6 - a noobs prespective

2011-02-09 Thread Robert Lusby
As part of my role, I'm responsible, for a small (20 - 25 machine) network in the UK. When it comes to IPv6 I'm a complete noob. So ok - this is how I stand for IPv6: I get IPv4, I get NAT, I get why it's needed, and I get why it's evil. I know my IPv4 network inside and out, how DHCP runs and

Re: IPv6 - a noobs prespective

2011-02-09 Thread Owen DeLong
On Feb 9, 2011, at 3:00 AM, Robert Lusby wrote: As part of my role, I'm responsible, for a small (20 - 25 machine) network in the UK. When it comes to IPv6 I'm a complete noob. So ok - this is how I stand for IPv6: I get IPv4, I get NAT, I get why it's needed, and I get why it's evil.

Re: IPv6 - a noobs prespective

2011-02-09 Thread Franck Martin
- From: William Herrin b...@herrin.us To: Robert Lusby nano...@gmail.com Cc: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Thursday, 10 February, 2011 7:03:01 AM Subject: Re: IPv6 - a noobs prespective On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 6:00 AM, Robert Lusby nano...@gmail.com wrote: I also get why we need IPv6, that it means removing

Re: IPv6 - a noobs prespective

2011-02-09 Thread Jack Bates
On 2/9/2011 12:03 PM, William Herrin wrote: The thing that terrifies me about deploying IPv6 is that apps compatible with both are programmed to attempt IPv6 before IPv4. This means my first not-quite-correct IPv6 deployments are going to break my apps that are used to not having and therefore

RE: IPv6 - a noobs prespective

2011-02-09 Thread Tony Hain
- a noobs prespective On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 6:00 AM, Robert Lusby nano...@gmail.com wrote: I also get why we need IPv6, that it means removing the NAT (which, surprise surprise also runs our Firewall), and I that I might need new kit for it. I am however *terrified* of making that move

Re: IPv6 - a noobs prespective

2011-02-09 Thread Franck Martin
: Thursday, 10 February, 2011 7:30:55 AM Subject: Re: IPv6 - a noobs prespective With the recent allocation of the last existing IPv4 /8s (which now kind of puts pressure on going v6), it would be wonderful if at the next couple of NANOGs if there could be an IPv6 for dummies session or two :) -Mike

Re: IPv6 - a noobs prespective

2011-02-09 Thread William F. Maton Sotomayor
On Wed, 9 Feb 2011, Mike Lyon wrote: With the recent allocation of the last existing IPv4 /8s (which now kind of puts pressure on going v6), it would be wonderful if at the next couple of NANOGs if there could be an IPv6 for dummies session or two :) I think these could be pretty valuable in

Re: IPv6 - a noobs prespective

2011-02-09 Thread Jack Bates
On 2/9/2011 12:30 PM, Tony Hain wrote: You don't have to disable IPv6 on the servers, just don't put a in dns. The simplest way to move forward is to get the entire path in place without the key to knowing is there, then for a few test subjects either provide a different dns response, or

Re: IPv6 - a noobs prespective

2011-02-09 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 9 feb 2011, at 19:30, Tony Hain wrote: Making the mass change of enabling the servers at the point you expect service to work is just asking for support calls... Do that on june 8 like everyone else. :-) http://isoc.org/wp/worldipv6day/

Re: IPv6 - a noobs prespective

2011-02-09 Thread Franck Martin
@nanog.org, Robert Lusby nano...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, 10 February, 2011 7:37:31 AM Subject: Re: IPv6 - a noobs prespective On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Franck Martin fra...@genius.com wrote: From: William Herrin b...@herrin.us The thing that terrifies me about deploying IPv6 is that apps

Re: IPv6 - a noobs prespective

2011-02-09 Thread Jared Mauch
On Feb 9, 2011, at 1:22 PM, Jack Bates wrote: On 2/9/2011 12:03 PM, William Herrin wrote: The thing that terrifies me about deploying IPv6 is that apps compatible with both are programmed to attempt IPv6 before IPv4. This means my first not-quite-correct IPv6 deployments are going to break

Re: IPv6 - a noobs prespective

2011-02-09 Thread Owen DeLong
On Feb 9, 2011, at 10:03 AM, William Herrin wrote: On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 6:00 AM, Robert Lusby nano...@gmail.com wrote: I also get why we need IPv6, that it means removing the NAT (which, surprise surprise also runs our Firewall), and I that I might need new kit for it. I am however

Re: IPv6 - a noobs prespective

2011-02-09 Thread Owen DeLong
There have been IPv6 for dummies sessions at many past NANOGs. If NANOG is willing to provide time and space for them at future events, I will be happy to conduct the tutorial sessions. Owen On Feb 9, 2011, at 10:30 AM, Mike Lyon wrote: With the recent allocation of the last existing IPv4 /8s

Re: IPv6 - a noobs prespective

2011-02-09 Thread Joel Jaeggli
On 2/9/11 2:22 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: There have been IPv6 for dummies sessions at many past NANOGs. If NANOG is willing to provide time and space for them at future events, I will be happy to conduct the tutorial sessions. program committee would no doubt love to hear from you. Owen

Re: IPv6 - a noobs prespective

2011-02-09 Thread Mark Andrews
In message aanlktimnwxkb0xz-okp44dxkvflhedwv8k3pex4ya...@mail.gmail.com, Will iam Herrin writes: On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 6:00 AM, Robert Lusby nano...@gmail.com wrote: I also get why we need IPv6, that it means removing the NAT (which, surpr= ise surprise also runs our Firewall), and I that