Re: IPv6 Multi-homing (was IPv6 /64 links)

2012-06-26 Thread Douglas Otis
On 6/25/12 10:33 PM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: On Mon, 25 Jun 2012, Cameron Byrne wrote: SCTP is coming along, and it has a lot of promise. Doesn't SCTP suffer from the same problem as SHIM6 was said to be suffering from, ie that now all of a sudden end systems control where packets go

IPv6 Multi-homing (was IPv6 /64 links)

2012-06-25 Thread Douglas Otis
On 6/25/12 7:54 AM, Owen DeLong wrote: It would have been better if IETF had actually solved this instead of punting on it when developing IPv6. Dear Owen, The IETF offered a HA solution that operates at the transport level. It solves jumbo frame error detection rate issues, head of queue

Re: IPv6 Multi-homing (was IPv6 /64 links)

2012-06-25 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Douglas Otis do...@mail-abuse.org wrote: On 6/25/12 7:54 AM, Owen DeLong wrote: It would have been better if IETF had actually solved this instead of punting on it when developing IPv6. Dear Owen, The IETF offered a HA solution that operates at the transport

Re: IPv6 Multi-homing (was IPv6 /64 links)

2012-06-25 Thread Douglas Otis
On 6/25/12 10:17 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote: On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Douglas Otis do...@mail-abuse.org wrote: On 6/25/12 7:54 AM, Owen DeLong wrote: It would have been better if IETF had actually solved this instead of punting on it when developing IPv6. Dear Owen, The IETF

Re: IPv6 Multi-homing (was IPv6 /64 links)

2012-06-25 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Douglas Otis do...@mail-abuse.org wrote: The Internet should use more than port 80 and port 443.  Is extending entrenched TCP cruft really taking the Internet to a better and safer place? isn't the 'internet should use more than 80/443' really: Some compelling

Re: IPv6 Multi-homing (was IPv6 /64 links)

2012-06-25 Thread William Herrin
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Douglas Otis do...@mail-abuse.org wrote: On 6/25/12 7:54 AM, Owen DeLong wrote: It would have been better if IETF had actually solved this instead of punting on it when developing IPv6. The IETF offered a HA solution that operates at the transport level. The

Re: IPv6 Multi-homing (was IPv6 /64 links)

2012-06-25 Thread Douglas Otis
On 6/25/12 12:20 PM, William Herrin wrote: On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Douglas Otis do...@mail-abuse.org wrote: On 6/25/12 7:54 AM, Owen DeLong wrote: It would have been better if IETF had actually solved this instead of punting on it when developing IPv6. The IETF offered a HA

Re: IPv6 Multi-homing (was IPv6 /64 links)

2012-06-25 Thread William Herrin
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 7:06 PM, Douglas Otis do...@mail-abuse.org wrote: On 6/25/12 12:20 PM, William Herrin wrote: How does SCTP address the most immediate problem with multiaddressed TCP servers: the client doesn't rapidly find a currently working address from the set initially offered by A

Re: IPv6 Multi-homing (was IPv6 /64 links)

2012-06-25 Thread William Herrin
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 8:03 PM, William Herrin b...@herrin.us wrote: Does SCTP operate on a list of IPv4 and IPv6 addresses received from the application when it asks for a connect, parallelizing its attempt to reach a live address? Or a DNS name which it resolves to find those addresses? Or

Re: IPv6 Multi-homing (was IPv6 /64 links)

2012-06-25 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Jun 25, 2012 6:38 PM, William Herrin b...@herrin.us wrote: On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 8:03 PM, William Herrin b...@herrin.us wrote: Does SCTP operate on a list of IPv4 and IPv6 addresses received from the application when it asks for a connect, parallelizing its attempt to reach a live

Re: IPv6 Multi-homing (was IPv6 /64 links)

2012-06-25 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Mon, 25 Jun 2012, Cameron Byrne wrote: SCTP is coming along, and it has a lot of promise. Doesn't SCTP suffer from the same problem as SHIM6 was said to be suffering from, ie that now all of a sudden end systems control where packets go and there is going to be a bunch of people on this