Re: IPv6 migration steps for mid-scale isp

2017-09-26 Thread Lee Howard
> Regards, >> Jordi >> >> >> -Mensaje original- >> De: NANOG en nombre de Brock Tice >> >> Responder a: >> Fecha: viernes, 15 de septiembre de 2017, 17:14 >> Para: Fredrik Sallinen >> CC: >> Asunto: Re: IPv6 migration steps

Re: IPv6 migration steps for mid-scale isp

2017-09-25 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
n CC: Asunto: Re: IPv6 migration steps for mid-scale isp On Sat, 23 Sep 2017, Fredrik Sallinen wrote: > Please correct me If I'm wrong, AFAIK 464XLAT works best with mobile > networks and its not suitable for fixed broadband. right? It's most widely deploy

Re: IPv6 migration steps for mid-scale isp

2017-09-23 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Sat, 23 Sep 2017, Fredrik Sallinen wrote: Please correct me If I'm wrong, AFAIK 464XLAT works best with mobile networks and its not suitable for fixed broadband. right? It's most widely deployed in mobile networks, yes. There is nothing that says it couldn't work anywhere else. However,

Re: IPv6 migration steps for mid-scale isp

2017-09-23 Thread Fredrik Sallinen
s panel ASAP. > > So please, keep pushing your vendors for it! > > Regards, > Jordi > > > -Mensaje original- > De: NANOG en nombre de Brock Tice > Responder a: > Fecha: viernes, 15 de septiembre de 2017, 17:14 > Para: Fredrik Sallinen > CC: >

Re: IPv6 migration steps for mid-scale isp

2017-09-23 Thread Fredrik Sallinen
CPE's are owned by our customers but we have control over ~60% of them using TR069. On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 9:43 PM, Max Tulyev wrote: > Hello, > > for my point of view, the start question is do you control CPEs (can > re-configure and re-flash it), or users buy and own CPEs themself? > > On 13

Re: IPv6 migration steps for mid-scale isp

2017-09-20 Thread Lee Howard
On 9/13/17, 8:08 AM, "NANOG on behalf of Fredrik Sallinen" wrote: >Hello, > >Recently we have decided to start IPv6 migration in our network. We >have ~1K BNGs and connecting our customers to network using PPPoE. >I'd be interested in hearing from the technical community about their >experience

Re: IPv6 migration steps for mid-scale isp

2017-09-20 Thread Måns Nilsson
Subject: Re: IPv6 migration steps for mid-scale isp Date: Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 12:04:45PM -0300 Quoting Owen DeLong (o...@delong.com): > > iBGP is scalable, you can introduce router reflectors to avoid full mesh > > peering between PE routers – and the sky if your limit! > >

Re: IPv6 migration steps for mid-scale isp

2017-09-20 Thread Owen DeLong
> On Sep 17, 2017, at 5:14 AM, Ahad Aboss wrote: > > Hi Fredrik, > > Running two different IGPs for IPv4 and IPv6 is a recipe for disaster even > if it’s a short-term goal. > > Here are a few things to consider; > > OSPF is good for small ISPs with small routing tables (10 to 15K routes). > I

Re: IPv6 migration steps for mid-scale isp

2017-09-20 Thread Ahad Aboss
Hi Fredrik, Running two different IGPs for IPv4 and IPv6 is a recipe for disaster even if it’s a short-term goal. Here are a few things to consider; OSPF is good for small ISPs with small routing tables (10 to 15K routes). It will support more routes but configuration of your network becomes mor

Re: IPv6 migration steps for mid-scale isp

2017-09-18 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
please, keep pushing your vendors for it! Regards, Jordi -Mensaje original- De: NANOG en nombre de Brock Tice Responder a: Fecha: viernes, 15 de septiembre de 2017, 17:14 Para: Fredrik Sallinen CC: Asunto: Re: IPv6 migration steps for mid-scale isp We are small but we are just

Re: IPv6 migration steps for mid-scale isp

2017-09-17 Thread Max Tulyev
Hello, for my point of view, the start question is do you control CPEs (can re-configure and re-flash it), or users buy and own CPEs themself? On 13.09.17 15:08, Fredrik Sallinen wrote: > Hello, > > Recently we have decided to start IPv6 migration in our network. We > have ~1K BNGs and connectin

Re: IPv6 migration steps for mid-scale isp

2017-09-16 Thread Baldur Norddahl
16/09/2017 kl. 10.56 sth...@nethelp.no: Yes, if you use OSPF for IPv4 you *have* to use something else for IPv6. But if you already run IS-IS there is no reason to change, just remember to enable multi-topology. Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sth...@nethelp.no We somehow manage to run jus

Re: IPv6 migration steps for mid-scale isp

2017-09-16 Thread Owen DeLong
> > > > Yes, if you use OSPF for IPv4 you *have* to use something else for > IPv6. But if you already run IS-IS there is no reason to change, just > remember to enable multi-topology. Well... sort of. The reality is that from a configuration and management perspective, there's very little di

Re: IPv6 migration steps for mid-scale isp

2017-09-16 Thread Michael Hallgren
Le 16/09/2017 à 10:39, Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr a écrit : > Hi, > > My advice is not to mix IGPs. If you are already running ISIS, then go for > multi-topology and dual-stack it. > > I've done that several times, running different backbones, works like a > charm. Less overhead as you'd only be run

Re: IPv6 migration steps for mid-scale isp

2017-09-16 Thread Randy Bush
> if IGP for IPv4 is IS-IS then use OSPFv3 for IPv6. this is nuts. one is-is instance carries both randy

Re: IPv6 migration steps for mid-scale isp

2017-09-16 Thread sthaug
> Thank you all for your Ideas. AFAIK one of the main decisions for IPv6 > transition and deployment is the choice of IPv6 IGP. I read somewhere > that its a good practice to use different IGP protocol for IPv6 and > IPv4. For example if IGP for IPv4 is IS-IS then use OSPFv3 for IPv6. > any comment

Re: IPv6 migration steps for mid-scale isp

2017-09-16 Thread Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr
Hi, My advice is not to mix IGPs. If you are already running ISIS, then go for multi-topology and dual-stack it. I've done that several times, running different backbones, works like a charm. Less overhead as you'd only be running one IGP. My 2 cents. > Le 16 sept. 2017 à 10:09, Fredrik Sal

Re: IPv6 migration steps for mid-scale isp

2017-09-16 Thread Fredrik Sallinen
Thank you all for your Ideas. AFAIK one of the main decisions for IPv6 transition and deployment is the choice of IPv6 IGP. I read somewhere that its a good practice to use different IGP protocol for IPv6 and IPv4. For example if IGP for IPv4 is IS-IS then use OSPFv3 for IPv6. any comments on this?

Re: IPv6 migration steps for mid-scale isp

2017-09-15 Thread Brock Tice
We are small but we are just about out of IPv4 and aren't going to get or buy any more. We have been testing for a while. > Shall I go for IPv6-only deployment or dual stack? You should plan for adding customers eventually that are IPv6-only, unless you have all the v4 you will ever need, and you

Re: IPv6 migration steps for mid-scale isp

2017-09-14 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Wed, 13 Sep 2017, Fredrik Sallinen wrote: Hello, Recently we have decided to start IPv6 migration in our network. We have ~1K BNGs and connecting our customers to network using PPPoE. I'd be interested in hearing from the technical community about their experiences and recommendations on thi

IPv6 migration steps for mid-scale isp

2017-09-14 Thread Fredrik Sallinen
Hello, Recently we have decided to start IPv6 migration in our network. We have ~1K BNGs and connecting our customers to network using PPPoE. I'd be interested in hearing from the technical community about their experiences and recommendations on this process. I'm wondering: Shall I go for IPv6-o