Re: Low Cost 10G Router

On 20/May/15 19:44, Alain Hebert wrote: > > Cisco > > I don't know about the licensing for the ASR but I mostly deal > with second hand devices. > > They are not flashy but do the job. If you are not trying to enable any IOS XR PIE's that need licenses (like video monitoring

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> BGP is still atrocious on the CCRs, but that's because the route > update process isn't multithreaded. I recently took a close look at this, and that the update process is single-threaded is not the major problem so long as churn is not too great. The problem is that due to a deeper prob

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On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 9:16 PM, Eduardo Schoedler wrote: > 2015-05-20 20:54 GMT-03:00 BPNoC Group : > > right now I'm pushing 11G/s 1.2Mpps, ServerU L-800 + Chelsio T580-CR, see > > below > > although you can ssh in, it's definitely not a software router since it's > > essentially T5 ASICS hardw

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Bryan, Very interesting. Doesn't ALU mainly compare the new Alcatel SRa-4/8 router vs a MX104 though? Besides no redundancy, what limitations does the MX80 and MX104 have? I am assume the Juniper does not have "BGP is multi-threaded on the box, does RPKI for route verification, and it's got exten

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2015-05-20 20:54 GMT-03:00 BPNoC Group : > right now I'm pushing 11G/s 1.2Mpps, ServerU L-800 + Chelsio T580-CR, see > below > although you can ssh in, it's definitely not a software router since it's > essentially T5 ASICS hardware pushing the packets > > % sudo rate -i cxgbe0 -R -b > => Currently

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On 5/19/15 1:22 PM, Colton Conor wrote: > What options are available for a small, low cost router that has at least > four 10G ports, and can handle full BGP routes? All that I know of are the > Juniper MX80, and the Brocade CER line. What does Cisco and others have > that compete with these two? A

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On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 1:42 PM, Colton Conor wrote: > So, from the sounds of it most are saying for low cost, the way to go would > be a software router, which I was trying to avoid. To answer the bandwidth > question, we would have three 10G ports with three different carriers and > at max push

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May 20, 2015 6:34:11 PM > Subject: Re: Low Cost 10G Router > > On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 2:07 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > > Well, the cores on a many-core CPU aren't going to have the "torque" that > > a Xeon would. They're also still working on the softwar

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Well, in my experience, which is limited to small iron mostly. Juniper MX104 Do not forget to get a second RE (Routine Engine) for software upgrade, and be prepare to accept to pay a "license" to use the 10Gbps ports on top of buying the IO cards. (1 license per 2 ports).

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Yep, thats what I meant be ALU 7750 :) On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 12:17 PM, Cody Grosskopf wrote: > Add Alcatel-Lucent 7750? I have no experience but this list seems to love > them. > > On Wed, May 20, 2015, 9:44 AM Colton Conor wrote: > >> So, from the sounds of it most are saying for low cost, t

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ZTE M6000-3S. It is what we use. Works well for us. Just remember to get a memory upgrade to 8 GB memory or you will run out of RIB space. Regards Baldur Den 20/05/2015 18.43 skrev "Colton Conor" : > So, from the sounds of it most are saying for low cost, the way to go would > be a software ro

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Add Alcatel-Lucent 7750? I have no experience but this list seems to love them. On Wed, May 20, 2015, 9:44 AM Colton Conor wrote: > So, from the sounds of it most are saying for low cost, the way to go would > be a software router, which I was trying to avoid. To answer the bandwidth > question,

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As mentioned by others on the list, a properly configured ASR1004 and up can do this. --Blake Colton Conor wrote on 5/20/2015 11:42 AM: So, from the sounds of it most are saying for low cost, the way to go would be a software router, which I was trying to avoid. To answer the bandwidth questi

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On 20 May 2015 at 17:44, Colton Conor wrote: > So are the rest of the processes in Mikrotik OS multi threaded? I would > hope so to take advantage of 36 cores! > The forthcoming new major software release from Mikrotik apparently will have multi-threaded BGP - it is targetted at their (also fort

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Since you are considering multiple options, I'd build a decision matrix. You can put down all the requirements, score each option, and then normalize it to give each a final score. After that you can calculate some other things such as throughput per dollar, etc. http://asq.org/learn-about-quality

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good, cheap, built by someone else pick 2 On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 9:42 AM, Colton Conor wrote: > So, from the sounds of it most are saying for low cost, the way to go would > be a software router, which I was trying to avoid. To answer the bandwidth > question, we would have three 10G ports

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Hello Pavel, Using ExaBGP as an SDN already has been done (and in a very large scale). But I would agree with Nick; It is not something I would recommend to everyone. Once more to echo Nick, to add/remove route/fw entries on Linux please do use netlink. The lastest ExaBGP master has some sta

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So are the rest of the processes in Mikrotik OS multi threaded? I would hope so to take advantage of 36 cores! What is up with all of these network vendors not supporting more than one core in their OS? I just don't get it. On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 9:49 PM, Josh Baird wrote: > The BGP daemon o

Re: Low Cost 10G Router

So, from the sounds of it most are saying for low cost, the way to go would be a software router, which I was trying to avoid. To answer the bandwidth question, we would have three 10G ports with three different carriers and at max push 10Gbps of total traffic to start. I think this leaves me with

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Hello! Yes, we could run route add / route del when we got any announce from external world with ExaBGP directly. I have implemented custom custom Firewall (netmap-ipfw) management tool which implement in similar manner. But I'm working with BGP flow spec. It's so complex, standard BGP is much tim

Re: Low Cost 10G Router

On 20/05/2015 15:25, Aled Morris wrote: > Couldn't your back-end scripts running under ExaBGP also manage the FIB, > using standard Unix tools/APIs? > > Managing the FIB is basically just "route add" and "route delete" right? Yes, you could probably do this. No, you probably wouldn't want to do

Re: Low Cost 10G Router

On 2015-05-20 08:17, Pavel Odintsov wrote: Hello! Ray, I could suggest switch from multi physical CPU configuration to single. Like Intel Xeon E5-1650/1660/1680 or even Xeon E3 platforms. Because multi processor systems need really huge amount of knowledge for NUMA configuration and PCI-E device

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On 20 May 2015 at 15:00, Pavel Odintsov wrote: > Yes, you could do filtering with Quagga. But Quagga is pretty old tool > without multiple dynamic features. But with ExaBGP you could do really > any significant route table transformations with Python in few lines > of code. But it's definitely ad

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Yes, you could do filtering with Quagga. But Quagga is pretty old tool without multiple dynamic features. But with ExaBGP you could do really any significant route table transformations with Python in few lines of code. But it's definitely add additional point of failure/bug. On Wed, May 20, 2015

Re: Low Cost 10G Router

On 20/05/2015 14:56, Pavel Odintsov wrote: > Yes, right! But ExaBGP could receive full BGP table, drop some rules > and reflect they to Quagga which could load FIB on the Cumulus. or you could not bother with exabgp and do your route filtering on quagga. Nothing wrong with exabgp, btw. Great pro

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Yes, right! But ExaBGP could receive full BGP table, drop some rules and reflect they to Quagga which could load FIB on the Cumulus. On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 4:53 PM, Nick Hilliard wrote: > On 20/05/2015 14:46, Pavel Odintsov wrote: >> We could cut full BGP and select only important prefixes with

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On 20/05/2015 14:46, Pavel Odintsov wrote: > We could cut full BGP and select only important prefixes with ExaBGP. exabgp is rib mgmt only and doesn't program the fib. you will need quagga / bird / etc for this. Nick

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We could cut full BGP and select only important prefixes with ExaBGP. On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Nick Hilliard wrote: > On 20/05/2015 14:32, Cody Grosskopf wrote: >> I haven't tried myself but some of the stuff Cumulus Linux is doing is >> pretty amazing, not certain quagga can or should ha

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I have tried Cumulus. It's awesome! :) You definitely could run Quagga, Bird or even ExaBGP https://github.com/Exa-Networks/exabgp and build full feature router from 10GE switch. On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Cody Grosskopf wrote: > I haven't tried myself but some of the stuff Cumulus Linux is

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On 20/05/2015 14:32, Cody Grosskopf wrote: > I haven't tried myself but some of the stuff Cumulus Linux is doing is > pretty amazing, not certain quagga can or should handle full bgp table but > you could probably get a Penguin 10gbe for less than 8k. quagga (or whatever RIB manager you want, e.g.

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I haven't tried myself but some of the stuff Cumulus Linux is doing is pretty amazing, not certain quagga can or should handle full bgp table but you could probably get a Penguin 10gbe for less than 8k. On Tue, May 19, 2015, 10:25 AM Colton Conor wrote: > What options are available for a small,

Re: Low Cost 10G Router

Hello! Ray, I could suggest switch from multi physical CPU configuration to single. Like Intel Xeon E5-1650/1660/1680 or even Xeon E3 platforms. Because multi processor systems need really huge amount of knowledge for NUMA configuration and PCI-E devices assignment for each NUMA. Secondly, I coul

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P.S I went through HotLava Systems for the Intel-based SFP+ NICs to add to those, http://hotlavasystems.com/ (not trying to plug; these are just hard to find) On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 9:08 AM, Ray Soucy wrote: > You're right I dropped down to the v2 for pricing reasons: > > - Supermicro SuperServ

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You're right I dropped down to the v2 for pricing reasons: - Supermicro SuperServer 5017R-MTRF - 4x SATA - 8x DDR3 - 400W Redundant - Eight-Core Intel Xeon Processor E5-2640 v2 2.00GHz 20MB Cache (95W) - 4 x SAMSUNG 2GB PC3-12800 DDR3-160 - 2 x 500GB SATA 6.0Gb/s 7200RPM - 3.5" - Western Digital R

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On Tuesday, May 19, 2015, Warsaw wrote: > > > On May 19, 2015, at 10:22, Colton Conor > wrote: > > > > > > What options are available for a small, low cost router that has at > least > > > four 10G ports, and can handle full BGP routes? All that I know of are > the > > > Juniper MX80, and the Bro

Re: Low Cost 10G Router

On 20/May/15 08:54, Jeff Tantsura wrote: > ASR1K (XE) has great BGP implementation, go for it if you are OK with > density/throughput. I second that. BGP for IOS XE is very mature (except RPKI, which has just got a fix). Mark.

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ASR1K (XE) has great BGP implementation, go for it if you are OK with density/throughput. Regards, Jeff > On May 19, 2015, at 11:35 PM, Mark Tees wrote: > > For the lists benefit, there is a 6 X 10GBE option for the ASR1000 > series it seems. No idea on pricing though. > > http://www.cisco.co

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For the lists benefit, there is a 6 X 10GBE option for the ASR1000 series it seems. No idea on pricing though. http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/application-networking-services/wide-area-application-services-waas-software/data-sheet-c78-729778.pdf Cheers, Mark On Wed, May 20, 20

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On 19/May/15 23:59, Rodrigo 1telecom wrote: > I know if is not possible to have a full routing on ex3300(low memory for it) > , but i never tried to do a default router on it( with EFL licence and > software above version 12) > I have many bgp session with cisco 3750 switchs.. Traffic about 2gb

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On 19/May/15 20:46, Ray Soucy wrote: > > An ASR1K might do the trick, but more likely than not you're looking at an > ASR9K if you want full tables; I don't have any experience with the 1K > personally so I can't speak to that. The ASR 9K is a really great platform > and is what we use for BGP h

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On 19/May/15 19:35, Colton Conor wrote: > As low as possible, though I am not sure how low that can be. > > For example, I can get a MX480 used with a 4 10G card for $16K. That would > easily handle my needs, but it's overkill for what we need to do. > > I would love a solution under 10K, but not

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The BGP daemon on the CCR routers is not multi-threaded; it only will use one core. Josh On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 10:06 PM, Colton Conor wrote: > So this new $1295 Mikrotik CCR1036-8G-2S+EM has a 36 core Tilera CPU with > 16GB of ram. Each core is running at 1.2Ghz? I assume that Mikrotik is >

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So this new $1295 Mikrotik CCR1036-8G-2S+EM has a 36 core Tilera CPU with 16GB of ram. Each core is running at 1.2Ghz? I assume that Mikrotik is multicore in software, so why does this box not outperform these intel boxes that everyone is recommending? Is it just a limitation of ports? On Tue,

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Wiadomość napisana przez Max Tulyev w dniu 19 maj 2015, o godz. 19:58: > We are using softrouters based on Supermicro chassis, E5v3 cpu, > Linux/BIRD and Intel 10G NICs. And VERY happy. Out of curiosity, how much traffic you pass over those softrouters? Piotr

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You can save a ton if you drop the requirement for full routes. Ask for a simple default route and then calculate your most used routes offline and upload that daily to the switch. I believe if you have just a few thousand routes, your outbound will be nearly the same as with full routes. Your inb

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> > On May 19, 2015, at 10:22, Colton Conor wrote: > > > > What options are available for a small, low cost router that has at least > > four 10G ports, and can handle full BGP routes? All that I know of are the > > Juniper MX80, and the Brocade CER line. What does Cisco and others have > > that

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> I've seen serious, unusual performance bottlenecks in Mikrotik CCR, in some > cases not even achieving a gigabit speeds on 10G interfaces. Performance > drops more rapidly then Cisco with smaller packet sizes. > > -mel beckman Folks often forget that Mikrotik ROS can also run on x86 machin

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... This customer had a asr1002 , but have a crash on asr router and only have this acx to up your link... Its a good test... Enviado via iPhone  Grupo Connectoway > Em 19/05/2015, às 18:59, Rodrigo 1telecom escreveu: > > I know if is not possible to have a full routing on ex3300(low memory f

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I know if is not possible to have a full routing on ex3300(low memory for it) , but i never tried to do a default router on it( with EFL licence and software above version 12) I have many bgp session with cisco 3750 switchs.. Traffic about 2gb on it... Have a peer( ebgp customer) with a acx2000(

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Hello! Yep, there are no existent open source routers yet exists. But there are a lot of capabilities for this. We could just wait some time. But DPDK _definitely_ could process 64mpps and 40GE with deep inspection and processing on enough cheap E5 2670v3 chips. Yes, definitely it's ideas about

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On 2015-05-19 14:23, Pavel Odintsov wrote: Hello! Somebody definitely should build full feature router with DPDK/netmap/pf_ring :) Netmap yes. The rest no. Why? Because netmap supports libpcap, which means everything just works. Other solutions need porting. You are going along, someone ment

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I do use L3 switches for BGP at some locations (Cisco 3750) and they perform great. The problem is no instrumentation (e.g. Sflow, netflow). -mel via cell > On May 19, 2015, at 12:55 PM, Pavel Odintsov wrote: > > What about L3 switches? You could receive full BGP table with Linux > BOX with E

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What about L3 switches? You could receive full BGP table with Linux BOX with ExaBGP, parse it and feed to L3 switch. On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 10:44 PM, Mel Beckman wrote: > I've seen serious, unusual performance bottlenecks in Mikrotik CCR, in some > cases not even achieving a gigabit speeds on 1

RE: Low Cost 10G Router

ts to impede. -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Max Tulyev Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 1:24 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Low Cost 10G Router Last config I touched: 2xIntel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2650 0 @ 2.00GHz, 12 Gbit summary, <5% each c

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I've seen serious, unusual performance bottlenecks in Mikrotik CCR, in some cases not even achieving a gigabit speeds on 10G interfaces. Performance drops more rapidly then Cisco with smaller packet sizes. -mel beckman > On May 19, 2015, at 12:28 PM, Justin Wilson - MTIN wrote: > > I second

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Microtik CCR have a huge issues in case of DDOS: http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=92728 On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 10:37 PM, Eduardo Schoedler wrote: > 2015-05-19 16:16 GMT-03:00 Keefe John : >> For about $1000 you could get a Mikrotik CCR1036-8G-2S+EM but it only has 2 >> SFP+ ports. >> >>

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2015-05-19 16:16 GMT-03:00 Keefe John : > For about $1000 you could get a Mikrotik CCR1036-8G-2S+EM but it only has 2 > SFP+ ports. > > http://routerboard.com/CCR1036-8G-2SplusEM Run away from Mikrotik, especially if you want to run BGP. -- Eduardo Schoedler

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How much does a Huawei NE40E-X1-M4 cost Richard? On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 1:09 PM, Richard Holbo wrote: > Huawei NE40E-X1-M4 > > I've two of these with full routes and so far (4months) they've functioned > perfectly, and the price point is... inexpensive. > > /rh > > On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 10:22

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I second the Mikrotik recommendation. You don’t get support like you would with Cisco but it’s a solid product. Justin Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net Managed Services – xISP Solutions – Data Centers http://www.thebrotherswisp.com Podcast about xISP topics http://www.midwest-

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Hello! Somebody definitely should build full feature router with DPDK/netmap/pf_ring :) I have finished detailed performance tests for all of them and could achieve wire speed forwarding (with simple packet rewrite and checksum calculation) with all of they. I.e. I could process 10GE and 14.6 mp

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> Chat in my nerds irc channel about 10G routers paralleling this > > 14:21 the Xeon D-1540 has 8 cores / 16 threads, 2GHz base clock with > 2.6GHz turbo, and dual 10G nics on chip > 14:21 45W TDP Right, but that's a pretty lame clock. > 14:31 supposedly an asrock board is comi

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For about $1000 you could get a Mikrotik CCR1036-8G-2S+EM but it only has 2 SFP+ ports. http://routerboard.com/CCR1036-8G-2SplusEM Keefe On 5/19/2015 3:46 PM, Joe Greco wrote: How cheap is cheap and what performance numbers are you looking for? About as cheap as you can get: For about $3,00

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Chat in my nerds irc channel about 10G routers paralleling this 14:21 the Xeon D-1540 has 8 cores / 16 threads, 2GHz base clock with 2.6GHz turbo, and dual 10G nics on chip 14:21 45W TDP 14:31 supposedly an asrock board is coming that can be 10Gbase-T or SFP+ 14:58 supermicro ar

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> How cheap is cheap and what performance numbers are you looking for? > > About as cheap as you can get: > > For about $3,000 you can build a Supermicro OEM system with an 8-core Xeon > E5 V3 and 4-port 10G Intel SFP+ NIC with 8G of RAM running VyOS. The pro > is that BGP convergence time will

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How cheap is cheap and what performance numbers are you looking for? About as cheap as you can get: For about $3,000 you can build a Supermicro OEM system with an 8-core Xeon E5 V3 and 4-port 10G Intel SFP+ NIC with 8G of RAM running VyOS. The pro is that BGP convergence time will be good (bette

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1.4Mpps now. On 19.05.15 21:32, Oleg A. Arkhangelsky wrote: > > > 19.05.2015, 21:26, "Max Tulyev" : >> Last config I touched: 2xIntel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2650 0 @ 2.00GHz, 12 >> Gbit summary, <5% each core load. > > And what PPS rate (in+out)? > > -- > wbr, Oleg. > > "Anarchy is about taking co

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How much of that traffic is valid legit traffic as well :( Colin > On 19 May 2015, at 19:32, Oleg A. Arkhangelsky wrote: > > > > 19.05.2015, 21:26, "Max Tulyev" : >> Last config I touched: 2xIntel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2650 0 @ 2.00GHz, 12 >> Gbit summary, <5% each core load. > > And what PPS ra

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19.05.2015, 21:26, "Max Tulyev" : > Last config I touched: 2xIntel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2650 0 @ 2.00GHz, 12 > Gbit summary, <5% each core load. And what PPS rate (in+out)? -- wbr, Oleg. "Anarchy is about taking complete responsibility for yourself."   Alan Moore.

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Last config I touched: 2xIntel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2650 0 @ 2.00GHz, 12 Gbit summary, <5% each core load. On 19.05.15 21:06, Piotr Iwanejko wrote: > Wiadomość napisana przez Max Tulyev w dniu 19 maj 2015, > o godz. 19:58: >> We are using softrouters based on Supermicro chassis, E5v3 cpu, >> Linux/

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Huawei NE40E-X1-M4 I've two of these with full routes and so far (4months) they've functioned perfectly, and the price point is... inexpensive. /rh On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Colton Conor wrote: > What options are available for a small, low cost router that has at least > four 10G ports

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What's the application, and what traffic levels do you anticipate. Any special features like MPLS or MPLS-TE? -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Colton Conor Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 12:23 PM To: NANOG Subject: Low Cost 10G Router

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Well, Hardly low cost =D - Alain Hebertaheb...@pubnix.net PubNIX Inc. 50 boul. St-Charles P.O. Box 26770 Beaconsfield, Quebec H9W 6G7 Tel: 514-990-5911 http://www.pubnix.netFax: 514-990-9443 On 05/19/15 13:31, Randy Carpenter wr

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We are using softrouters based on Supermicro chassis, E5v3 cpu, Linux/BIRD and Intel 10G NICs. And VERY happy. On 19.05.15 20:22, Colton Conor wrote: > What options are available for a small, low cost router that has at least > four 10G ports, and can handle full BGP routes? All that I know of are

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If you want virtual 10gb ports go vmware with a cisco routing vm or juniper routing vm Colin > On 19 May 2015, at 18:40, Steve Noble wrote: > > You could potentially do it with a Vyatta 5600 or a 6Wind Turbo router > running on a generic server, but I am not sure where the cost crossover > is

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You could potentially do it with a Vyatta 5600 or a 6Wind Turbo router running on a generic server, but I am not sure where the cost crossover is with physical hardware especially if you go with used hardware. > Colton Conor > May 19, 2015 at 10:22 AM > What options

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As low as possible, though I am not sure how low that can be. For example, I can get a MX480 used with a 4 10G card for $16K. That would easily handle my needs, but it's overkill for what we need to do. I would love a solution under 10K, but not sure if one exists. On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 12:24

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Oops, Cisco ASR 1k series might not cut it, you can take a look at their 9k seriers: http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/routers/asr-9000-series-aggregation-services-routers/models-comparison.html On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Colton Conor wrote: > What options are available for a small, l

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Here is what I found on Google about Cisco's options: http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/routers/asr-1000-series-aggregation-services-routers/models-comparison.html And when it comes to Juniper, you might be able to get it done with MX40 (look at their options, there are different combinations

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If you are considering Juniper, check out the MX104. There are bundles currently that give you similar capacity to an MX80 at a significantly lower price. thanks, -Randy - On May 19, 2015, at 1:22 PM, Colton Conor colton.co...@gmail.com wrote: > What options are available for a small, lo

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How much is "low cost"? Mehmet > On May 19, 2015, at 10:22, Colton Conor wrote: > > What options are available for a small, low cost router that has at least > four 10G ports, and can handle full BGP routes? All that I know of are the > Juniper MX80, and the Brocade CER line. What does Cisco a

Low Cost 10G Router

What options are available for a small, low cost router that has at least four 10G ports, and can handle full BGP routes? All that I know of are the Juniper MX80, and the Brocade CER line. What does Cisco and others have that compete with these two? Any other vendors besides Juniper, Brocade, and C