Re: Low end, cool CPE.

2010-11-16 Thread Joel Jaeggli
On 11/12/10 11:30 PM, Eugen Leitl wrote: On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 10:10:30AM -0500, Jason Lewis wrote: Everytime I'm in the market for a device like you describe, it comes down to the limitations of consumer devices. You can't get all those things in a low cost solution. I end up rolling my

Re: Low end, cool CPE.

2010-11-16 Thread Michael Loftis
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 8:36 AM, Matthew Kaufman matt...@matthew.at wrote: On 11/11/2010 10:55 PM, Michael Loftis wrote: I have sort of recently gone from a little netscreen 5 to a mikrotik rb750g. Happily running for about 4 months. Way more of a power user or net admin than consumer

RE: Low end, cool CPE.

2010-11-12 Thread Martin Hotze
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:41:00 -0800 From: Leo Bicknell bickn...@ufp.org Subject: Low end, cool CPE. I've run into a number of low end CPE situations lately where I haven't found anything that does what I want, but I have to believe it is out there. I'm hoping NANOG can help

Re: Low end, cool CPE.

2010-11-12 Thread Marco Hogewoning
On 12 nov 2010, at 02:41, Leo Bicknell wrote: I've run into a number of low end CPE situations lately where I haven't found anything that does what I want, but I have to believe it is out there. I'm hoping NANOG can help. snip What is the state of the art, and who has it? shameless

Re: Low end, cool CPE.

2010-11-12 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 05:41:00PM -0800, Leo Bicknell wrote: I've run into a number of low end CPE situations lately where I haven't found anything that does what I want, but I have to believe it is out there. I'm hoping NANOG can help. An ALIX with pfSense 2.0 (BETA4 at the moment) would

Re: Low end, cool CPE.

2010-11-12 Thread Bjørn Mork
Leo Bicknell bickn...@ufp.org writes: - IPv6 support, native or tunnel to tunnelbroker.net type thing. This is far too diffuse. You'll get a yes, we've got IPv6. You should at least add - IPv6 packet filtering and policy management (at least simple access lists) - DHCPv6-PD client

Re: Low end, cool CPE.

2010-11-12 Thread Tim Chown
On 12 Nov 2010, at 12:55, Bjørn Mork wrote: This is far too diffuse. You'll get a yes, we've got IPv6. You should at least add - IPv6 packet filtering and policy management (at least simple access lists) snip The point is: We've been asking for IPv6 for too long. That's just one

Re: Low end, cool CPE.

2010-11-12 Thread Francois Menard
On 2010-11-12, at 4:24 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote: On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 05:41:00PM -0800, Leo Bicknell wrote: I've run into a number of low end CPE situations lately where I haven't found anything that does what I want, but I have to believe it is out there. I'm hoping NANOG can help.

Re: Low end, cool CPE.

2010-11-12 Thread Marco Hogewoning
All of this on a $70 box, with a very fast CPU, and 5 GigE ports. Currently playing with a little ADSL box made by Gennet (Athens, Greece). They have a beta which includes v6 support. Still some work to do but it looks very promising and the basics work (PPP dual stack, dhcpv6 PD, DNS).

RE: Low end, cool CPE.

2010-11-12 Thread Wallace Keith
-Original Message- From: Leo Bicknell [mailto:bickn...@ufp.org] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 8:41 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Low end, cool CPE. I've run into a number of low end CPE situations lately where I haven't found anything that does what I want, but I have to believe

Re: Low end, cool CPE.

2010-11-12 Thread Jason Lewis
Everytime I'm in the market for a device like you describe, it comes down to the limitations of consumer devices. You can't get all those things in a low cost solution. I end up rolling my own. My latest system is this http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/5015/SYS-5015A-PHF.cfm , with

Re: Low end, cool CPE.

2010-11-12 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 10:10:30AM -0500, Jason Lewis wrote: Everytime I'm in the market for a device like you describe, it comes down to the limitations of consumer devices. You can't get all those things in a low cost solution. I end up rolling my own. My latest system is this

Re: Low end, cool CPE.

2010-11-12 Thread Matthew Kaufman
On 11/11/2010 10:55 PM, Michael Loftis wrote: I have sort of recently gone from a little netscreen 5 to a mikrotik rb750g. Happily running for about 4 months. Way more of a power user or net admin than consumer oriented device. Fast though, loads faster than the netscreen I would recommend

Re: Low end, cool CPE.

2010-11-12 Thread Charles N Wyble
Check out cradlepoint. Doesn't have all the features you want, but will do wifi/3g/ethernet as wan options. Not sure if it load balances between them though. Also check out pfsense. That's what I am currently running. On 11/11/2010 05:54 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: And does this take

Re: Low end, cool CPE.

2010-11-12 Thread Charles N Wyble
On 11/12/2010 01:24 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote: On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 05:41:00PM -0800, Leo Bicknell wrote: I've run into a number of low end CPE situations lately where I haven't found anything that does what I want, but I have to believe it is out there. I'm hoping NANOG can help. An ALIX with

Re: Low end, cool CPE.

2010-11-12 Thread Byers, Micah
They also have an adapter for using with other routers in a pass-through scenario. http://www.cradlepoint.com/products/cba250-cellular-broadband-adapter# On 11/12/10 11:00 AM, Charles N Wyble char...@knownelement.com wrote: Check out cradlepoint. Doesn't have all the features you want, but

Low end, cool CPE.

2010-11-11 Thread Leo Bicknell
I've run into a number of low end CPE situations lately where I haven't found anything that does what I want, but I have to believe it is out there. I'm hoping NANOG can help. Basically think about a sophisticated home user, or a 1-5 person small office. Think DSL, Cable Modem, maybe Cell Card

Re: Low end, cool CPE.

2010-11-11 Thread Andrew Kirch
ClearOS appliance. http://www.clearcenter.com/ClearBOX-Overview/clearbox-overview.html multi-wan, snort IDS, reporting, all built in. Manageable via the web interface, or ssh (it's linux after all) On 11/11/2010 8:41 PM, Leo Bicknell wrote: Something a NANOGer might want at home would be a

Re: Low end, cool CPE.

2010-11-11 Thread David Coulson
On 11/11/10 8:41 PM, Leo Bicknell wrote: Something a NANOGer might want at home would be a good baseline. I realize the exact product may differ depending on DSL/Cable/Cell/ISDN, that's ok, let's get some various good solutions going here. What is the state of the art, and who has it? I've been

Re: Low end, cool CPE.

2010-11-11 Thread Jeffrey Lyon
Try the Linksys RV016. We're using this to load balance three satellite uplinks in Afghanistan, 2 Mbps each, but it will supposedly handle much higher. Best regards, Jeff On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 4:41 AM, Leo Bicknell bickn...@ufp.org wrote: I've run into a number of low end CPE situations

Re: Low end, cool CPE.

2010-11-11 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
And does this take cellular modems as a backup? The only wifi AP I've seen that would take SIM cards besides ethernet was a no-name chinese brand I saw in a Hong Kong electronics store. On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 7:18 AM, Jeffrey Lyon jeffrey.l...@blacklotus.net wrote: Try the Linksys RV016. We're

Re: Low end, cool CPE.

2010-11-11 Thread Matthew Kaufman
Last time I looked into this, the small Fortinet boxes and the Juniper NetScreen-5 or -25 were in this class. Juniper now has the SSG to replace the small NetScreen devices. I'm using a Fortinet box to do many of the things on your list, including IPv6 support, at home. Matthew Kaufman

Re: Low end, cool CPE.

2010-11-11 Thread Matthew Kaufman
On 11/11/2010 5:56 PM, Matthew Kaufman wrote: Last time I looked into this, the small Fortinet boxes and the Juniper NetScreen-5 or -25 were in this class. Juniper now has the SSG to replace the small NetScreen devices. I'm using a Fortinet box to do many of the things on your list,

Re: Low end, cool CPE.

2010-11-11 Thread Fearghas McKay
On 12 Nov 2010, at 01:54, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: And does this take cellular modems as a backup? The only wifi AP I've seen that would take SIM cards besides ethernet was a no-name chinese brand I saw in a Hong Kong electronics store. The Vigor2820 series of WiFi AP/Router/ADSL boxes

Re: Low end, cool CPE.

2010-11-11 Thread Adam Leff
I'd take a peak at Juniper's branch model SRX line. Something like the SRX210 has a mini-PIM slot that can take a DOCSIS hand-off. Can't speak to pricing, however, but they're great little boxes. Adam On Nov 11, 2010, at 18:43, Leo Bicknell bickn...@ufp.org wrote: I've run into a number of

Re: Low end, cool CPE.

2010-11-11 Thread Jason Bertoch
On 11/11/2010 8:41 PM, Leo Bicknell wrote: I've run into a number of low end CPE situations lately where I haven't found anything that does what I want, but I have to believe it is out there. I'm hoping NANOG can help. Basically think about a sophisticated home user, or a 1-5 person small

Re: Low end, cool CPE.

2010-11-11 Thread Tim Jackson
As well as an expresscard slot for a wireless modem.. On Nov 11, 2010 8:27 PM, Adam Leff a...@leff.co wrote: I'd take a peak at Juniper's branch model SRX line. Something like the SRX210 has a mini-PIM slot that can take a DOCSIS hand-off. Can't speak to pricing, however, but they're great

Re: Low end, cool CPE.

2010-11-11 Thread Owen DeLong
I'm very happy with my SRX-100, but, I wouldn't call it particularly low-end at $600. Owen On Nov 11, 2010, at 5:56 PM, Matthew Kaufman wrote: Last time I looked into this, the small Fortinet boxes and the Juniper NetScreen-5 or -25 were in this class. Juniper now has the SSG to replace the

Re: Low end, cool CPE.

2010-11-11 Thread Michael Loftis
I have sort of recently gone from a little netscreen 5 to a mikrotik rb750g. Happily running for about 4 months. Way more of a power user or net admin than consumer oriented device. Fast though, loads faster than the netscreen On Nov 11, 2010 6:41 PM, Leo Bicknell bickn...@ufp.org wrote: I've