Re: MSA’s and network architecture

2022-05-20 Thread Mark Tinka
On 5/18/22 11:30, Etienne-Victor Depasquale wrote: Agreed - but wouldn't it be fair to say that, nonetheless, the availability of an MSA supports the development of network architecture? Of course, it would. After all, we want two sides to be able to speak to each other, to create this

Re: MSA’s and network architecture

2022-05-18 Thread Martin Hannigan
On Wed, May 18, 2022 at 01:59 Mark Tinka wrote: > > > On 5/18/22 03:55, Martin Hannigan wrote: > > > > > > > All, > > > > Why do MSA’s matter as related to network architecture? > > As in "Master Services Agreement"? Admittedly vague, but deliberate. Perhaps the thread answered the question.

Re: MSA’s and network architecture

2022-05-18 Thread Etienne-Victor Depasquale via NANOG
> > Considered that, but that would be obvious - we need optics :-). > Agreed - but wouldn't it be fair to say that, nonetheless, the availability of an MSA supports the development of network architecture? With an MSA, there is some limited, common basis for a discussion in an ecosystem of

Re: MSA’s and network architecture

2022-05-18 Thread Saku Ytti
On Wed, 18 May 2022 at 11:35, Mark Tinka wrote: > Unless you are truly desperate and/or happy to get stuck in vendor-land, > always wise to be slightly behind the curve when it comes to optics. Agreed, if possible do boring things and get boring results. Even in vendor land, a boring result is

Re: MSA’s and network architecture

2022-05-18 Thread Mark Tinka
On 5/18/22 08:39, Saku Ytti wrote: We could also add an explanation to our proposals for the acronym. :) In your fair proposal, MSA is related to network architecture as a way to standardise pluggable (optics). But as always standards are incomplete, ambiguous and do not guarantee

Re: MSA’s and network architecture

2022-05-18 Thread Mark Tinka
On 5/18/22 08:28, Etienne-Victor Depasquale via NANOG wrote: Just to add a bit of fun to the mix - perhaps multi-source agreement was intended :) Considered that, but that would be obvious - we need optics :-). Mark.

Re: MSA’s and network architecture

2022-05-18 Thread Etienne-Victor Depasquale via NANOG
> > In your fair proposal, MSA is related to network architecture as a way > to standardise pluggable (optics). But as always standards are > incomplete, ambiguous and do not guarantee interoperability, so it > will take some time for industry to decide what is 'correct' > interpretation of MSA.

Re: MSA’s and network architecture

2022-05-18 Thread Saku Ytti
We could also add an explanation to our proposals for the acronym. :) In your fair proposal, MSA is related to network architecture as a way to standardise pluggable (optics). But as always standards are incomplete, ambiguous and do not guarantee interoperability, so it will take some time for

Re: MSA’s and network architecture

2022-05-18 Thread Etienne-Victor Depasquale via NANOG
Just to add a bit of fun to the mix - perhaps multi-source agreement was intended :) Cheers, Etienne On Wed, May 18, 2022 at 3:59 AM Martin Hannigan wrote: > > > All, > > Why do MSA’s matter as related to network architecture? > > Thanks all — > > -M< > > > > -- Ing. Etienne-Victor

Re: MSA’s and network architecture

2022-05-18 Thread Saku Ytti
Asking good questions is much harder than answering good questions. You could have improved the quality of question here by staging what MSA is and in what context you've run into this. I am assuming MSA here is a metro statistical area, and if so, I can answer for the context of my employer,

Re: MSA’s and network architecture

2022-05-17 Thread Mark Tinka
On 5/18/22 03:55, Martin Hannigan wrote: All, Why do MSA’s matter as related to network architecture? As in "Master Services Agreement"? Mark.

MSA’s and network architecture

2022-05-17 Thread Martin Hannigan
All, Why do MSA’s matter as related to network architecture? Thanks all — -M<