- Original Message -
> From: "Michael Sinatra"
> On 11/15/13 13:25, Jay Ashworth wrote:
> > You seem to be taking this awfully personally, though, Mike; did you
> > *set* the policies and procedures I'm scoffing at?
>
> I am NOT TAKING IT PERSONALLY DAMMIT!!!
Well, jeez, Loueeze... :-)
On 11/15/13 13:25, Jay Ashworth wrote:
> You seem to be taking this awfully personally, though, Mike; did you
> *set* the policies and procedures I'm scoffing at?
I am NOT TAKING IT PERSONALLY DAMMIT!!!
Okay, now being serious (note clever way of avoiding using emoticons
while pointing out that
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 9:25 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
...
> Yeah; cranes are a bitch. :-)
No, it is arranging for a rigging crew and the
safety plan reviews for the lift (at least in any
major company/institution which wants to
stay on the happy side of OSHA; and has
consul that suggests that the
- Original Message -
> From: "Michael Sinatra"
> >> Caveats:
> >
> > [ 17 pages of caveats elided ]
>
> I realize I am wordy, but four bullet points (one of which involves
> apparel) != "17 pages of caveats". Nice try. The rest of the email was
> inline replies to Justin's points.
We're
On 11/15/13 12:29, Jay Ashworth wrote:
> - Original Message -
>> From: "Michael Sinatra"
>
>> UC Berkeley installed 3 CEVs (Controlled Environment Vaults) below
>> ground on campus about 10-15 years ago. One of them houses one of the
>> two main fiber penetrations to campus, including DWD
- Original Message -
> From: "Michael Sinatra"
> UC Berkeley installed 3 CEVs (Controlled Environment Vaults) below
> ground on campus about 10-15 years ago. One of them houses one of the
> two main fiber penetrations to campus, including DWDM gear,
> patch-panels, border routers, even pa
Hi Justin and Roy:
On 11/13/13 12:05, Justin M. Streiner wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Nov 2013, Roy hockett wrote:
>
>> Has anyone ever used a below grade vault for housing fiber cross
>> connects?
>>
>> We have to move a fiber interconnect facility due to the current
>> building being demolished. If you
On 11/13/13 11:51 PM, Roy Hockett wrote:
I am guessing due to esthetics the below ground vault was selected, we just
learned of this selection and thus
my query to this group to find other that have dealt with similar situations
and if so, experience base recommendations,
and things to be aware
age-
From: Thomas [mailto:grave...@swbell.net]
Sent: November-14-13 9:17 AM
To: Justin M. Streiner
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: OT: Below grade fiber interconnect points
Another option is an above ground cabinet. Many telecoms use them.
Thomas L Graves
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> On No
There are a couple of ways to do this. If you're going to keep everything
below grade in a man hole or cable vault of some type, you definitely need
to have it in a sealed splicing enclosure. That means instead of using a
patch panel, everything has to be fusion spliced. You'll get less loss
bec
nks,
Joe
-Original Message-
From: Justin M. Streiner [mailto:strei...@cluebyfour.org]
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 9:05 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: OT: Below grade fiber interconnect points
On Wed, 13 Nov 2013, Roy Hockett wrote:
> Thank you for comments. Let me clarify t
Another option is an above ground cabinet. Many telecoms use them.
Thomas L Graves
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> On Nov 13, 2013, at 8:04 PM, "Justin M. Streiner"
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 13 Nov 2013, Roy Hockett wrote:
>>
>> Thank you for comments. Let me clarify the situation. We have a building
On Wed, 13 Nov 2013, Roy Hockett wrote:
Thank you for comments. Let me clarify the situation. We have a building that
has been fiber cross connect
location and is being demolished. This location has about 20 fiber cable
entering where we patch between
fiber paths. If we relocated these cros
Thank you for comments. Let me clarify the situation. We have a building that
has been fiber cross connect
location and is being demolished. This location has about 20 fiber cable
entering where we patch between
fiber paths. If we relocated these cross connect field to another building and
th
You can stick a "splice" in a manhole. You don't want a "patch panel"
or cross-connect in that sort of environment, keep that housed inside,
somewhere.
Jeff
On 11/13/2013 7:53 PM, Thomas wrote:
> Usually it would spliced outside at the manhole where the fiber meet to go in
> the building. Depe
Usually it would spliced outside at the manhole where the fiber meet to go in
the building. Depends on the way you want to connect them etc.
Thomas L Graves
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> On Nov 13, 2013, at 2:05 PM, "Justin M. Streiner"
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 13 Nov 2013, Roy hockett wrote:
>>
>>
On Wed, 13 Nov 2013, Roy hockett wrote:
Has anyone ever used a below grade vault for housing fiber cross connects?
We have to move a fiber interconnect facility due to the current
building being demolished. If you have I would be interested in talking
to you. If there are more appropriate l
Has anyone ever used a below grade vault for housing fiber cross connects?
We have to move a fiber interconnect facility due to the current building being
demolished.
If you have I would be interested in talking to you. If there are more
appropriate lists, I would appreciate any suggestions.
T
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