Re: Operator survey: Incrementally deployable secure Internet routing

2022-01-25 Thread Adrian Perrig
Hi Scott > "Do you use countries as ISDs? Doesn't that create opportunities for government intervention and censorship? > I asked about the ISDs and put a FAQ you have as an example. I didn't ask about the SBAS. It seems to me that the ingress/egress of an ISD is the place a government surveilla

Re: Operator survey: Incrementally deployable secure Internet routing

2022-01-25 Thread Adrian Perrig
Hi Laura > With the greatest of respect I'm afraid this kind of exemplifies the sort of dream-ware that can only be thought up in the cozy confines of a university campus. Indeed, that's the origin of many innovations -- and some of them do make it into the real world. > So the chances of someth

Re: Operator survey: Incrementally deployable secure Internet routing

2022-01-24 Thread scott
Hello, "are described in further detail in the survey" Doing the survey gives legitimacy to something I feel is not correct --- "We understand the privacy concern. As for SBAS, the backbone is operated in a federated manner among PoP operators." I asked about the ISDs and put a FAQ yo

Re: Operator survey: Incrementally deployable secure Internet routing

2022-01-24 Thread Laura Smith via NANOG
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Friday, January 21st, 2022 at 22:07, Yixin Sun wrote: > Dear Nanog, > > We appreciate that your time is very precious, but we wanted to ask you for > your help in answering a brief survey about a new secure routing system we > have developed in a research c

Re: Operator survey: Incrementally deployable secure Internet routing

2022-01-24 Thread Tom Beecher
This seems like Rube Goldberg Machine levels of complexity and overhead to try and solve for forged-origin , when good best practices already makes the risk of that almost negligible. On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 5:22 PM Yixin Sun wrote: > Dear Nanog, > > We appreciate that your time is very preciou

Re: Operator survey: Incrementally deployable secure Internet routing

2022-01-24 Thread Yixin Sun
Hi Scott, Thank you for your comment! We understand the privacy concern. As for SBAS, the backbone is operated in a federated manner among PoP operators. In our current deployment, the PoP operators are located across three continents. On the other hand, due to the federated structure of the SBAS

Re: Operator survey: Incrementally deployable secure Internet routing

2022-01-21 Thread scott
On 1/21/2022 12:07 PM, Yixin Sun wrote: We appreciate that your time is very precious, but we wanted to ask you for your help in answering a brief survey about a new secure routing system we have developed in a research collaboration between ETH, Princeton University, and University of Virgi

Operator survey: Incrementally deployable secure Internet routing

2022-01-21 Thread Yixin Sun
Dear Nanog, We appreciate that your time is very precious, but we wanted to ask you for your help in answering a brief survey about a new secure routing system we have developed in a research collaboration between ETH, Princeton University, and University of Virginia. We'd like to thank those of y