Re: Passive Wave Primer

2020-11-12 Thread Neil J. McRae
+1 on this – we use it internally to manage two optical platforms (international vs local) and even that has caused some challenges! From: NANOG Date: Tuesday, 13 October 2020 at 22:03 To: Brandon Martin Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Passive Wave Primer >From the perspective of a la

Re: Passive Wave Primer

2020-10-13 Thread Dave Cohen
From the perspective of a large carrier, spectrum is an operational nightmare. At a former $dayjob it was an “offering” in the sense that we had deployed it, told customers we offered it but wouldn’t actually deploy it anymore. Logistically there are a lot of potential points of failure once yo

Re: Passive Wave Primer

2020-10-13 Thread Brandon Martin
On 10/13/20 4:01 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: It seems incredibly simple to do, depending on the capabilities of your platform. What am I missing? If the span between the mux/demux pair is entirely passive, it's fairly straightforward. That's going to limit distances to around 80km or so with c

Re: Passive Wave Primer

2020-10-13 Thread TJ Trout
” that to the appropriate WDM channel. > > > > *From:* NANOG *On Behalf Of *TJ > Trout > *Sent:* Wednesday, 14 October 2020 6:22 am > *To:* James Jun > *Cc:* nanog > *Subject:* Re: Passive Wave Primer > > > > What is the difference between a normal wave and a alien wave? > > >

Re: Passive Wave Primer

2020-10-13 Thread Brandon Martin
On 10/13/20 3:35 PM, Tony Wicks wrote: We sell some wavelengths on passive CWDM/DWDM path's between Datacentres (less than 80Km) to customers to spread the cost of leasing the dark fibre. But yes, as far as long distance (apart from bespoke offerings) I'm yet to see a productised alien wave servi

Re: Passive Wave Primer

2020-10-13 Thread Mike Hammett
.org Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 2:11:24 PM Subject: Re: Passive Wave Primer On 10/13/20 8:27 AM, Rod Beck wrote: > Looking for a tutorial on passive waves. How it works. Pros and cons. . If you're talking about what I think you are, the term the folks who make the transport g

Re: Passive Wave Primer

2020-10-13 Thread Martijn Schmidt via NANOG
g Subject: RE: Passive Wave Primer We sell some wavelengths on passive CWDM/DWDM path's between Datacentres (less than 80Km) to customers to spread the cost of leasing the dark fibre. But yes, as far as long distance (apart from bespoke offerings) I'm yet to see a productised alien wave

RE: Passive Wave Primer

2020-10-13 Thread Tony Wicks
that money on OTN kit the extra cost of the transponders is not really significant I suppose. -Original Message- From: NANOG On Behalf Of Brandon Martin Sent: Wednesday, 14 October 2020 8:11 am To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Passive Wave Primer I have yet to find a service provid

Re: Passive Wave Primer

2020-10-13 Thread Brandon Martin
On 10/13/20 8:27 AM, Rod Beck wrote: Looking for a tutorial on passive waves. How it works. Pros and cons. . If you're talking about what I think you are, the term the folks who make the transport gear seem to use is "spectrum" as in you (as service provider) sell your customer some portion o

RE: Passive Wave Primer

2020-10-13 Thread Tony Wicks
On Behalf Of TJ Trout Sent: Wednesday, 14 October 2020 6:22 am To: James Jun Cc: nanog Subject: Re: Passive Wave Primer What is the difference between a normal wave and a alien wave?

Re: Passive Wave Primer

2020-10-13 Thread TJ Trout
What is the difference between a normal wave and a alien wave? On Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 6:36 AM James Jun wrote: > On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 12:27:44PM +, Rod Beck wrote: > > Dear Network Gurus, > > > > Looking for a tutorial on passive waves. How it works. Pros and cons. . > > > > Essentially, y

Re: Passive Wave Primer

2020-10-13 Thread James Jun
On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 12:27:44PM +, Rod Beck wrote: > Dear Network Gurus, > > Looking for a tutorial on passive waves. How it works. Pros and cons. . > Essentially, you're providing a channel off of your DWDM filters for someone else to pass light. Commonly in the market, a "wavelength" p

Passive Wave Primer

2020-10-13 Thread Rod Beck
Dear Network Gurus, Looking for a tutorial on passive waves. How it works. Pros and cons. . Thanks. Best, Roderick. Roderick Beck VP of Business Development United Cable Company www.unitedcablecompany.com New York City & Budapest rod.b...@unitedcablecom