On 9 Feb 2011, at 02:43, R. Benjamin Kessler ben.kess...@zenetra.com wrote:
From: George Herbert [mailto:george.herb...@gmail.com]
Let's just grab 2/8, it's not routed on the Internet...
+1
I was consulting for a financial services firm in the late '90s that was
acquired by a large
On 2/9/11 4:35 AM, Sam Stickland wrote:
On 9 Feb 2011, at 02:43, R. Benjamin Kessler
ben.kess...@zenetra.com wrote:
From: George Herbert [mailto:george.herb...@gmail.com]
Let's just grab 2/8, it's not routed on the Internet...
+1
I was consulting for a financial services firm in
On Feb 9, 2011, at 4:35 AM, Sam Stickland wrote:
On 9 Feb 2011, at 02:43, R. Benjamin Kessler ben.kess...@zenetra.com
wrote:
From: George Herbert [mailto:george.herb...@gmail.com]
Let's just grab 2/8, it's not routed on the Internet...
+1
I was consulting for a financial
Before arin etc it was possible to request ip space and on the form specify you
would not be connecting to the Internet.
Jared Mauch
On Feb 8, 2011, at 9:35 AM, gb10hkzo-na...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Hint: even IPs not pingable from the Internet are being used. Not
everyone is an ISP/Webhoster
I've worked in plenty of places where registered address was used on private
interconnections between organisations to avoid overlaps, but never announced
globally.
S
On 8 Feb 2011, at 14:35, gb10hkzo-na...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Hint: even IPs not pingable from the Internet are being used. Not
On 2/8/2011 7:25 AM, Sam Stickland wrote:
I've worked in plenty of places where registered address was used on private
interconnections between organisations to avoid overlaps, but never announced
globally.
There's no such thing as globally anyway.
Your view of the Internet routing table !=
I wish people would actually read RFC 1918.
Category 1: hosts that do not require access to hosts in other
enterprises or the Internet at large; hosts within
this category may use IP addresses that are
unambiguous within an enterprise,
Before arin etc it was possible to request ip space and on the
form specify you would not be connecting to the Internet.
So those off net users can't complain if ARIN allocated the
same ranges on net. Not that it's worth doing so now.
V6, drive fast.
brandon
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Mark Andrews ma...@isc.org wrote:
I wish people would actually read RFC 1918.
Category 1: hosts that do not require access to hosts in other
enterprises or the Internet at large; hosts within
this category may use IP
On Tue, 08 Feb 2011 14:59:12 PST, George Herbert said:
It's easy to say Well, foo on them, but for those of us who provide
services or consulting to those who failed to follow the directions,
we still have to deal with it.
Just remember that if they *had* followed the directions, your
On 2/8/2011 2:46 PM, Brandon Butterworth wrote:
Before arin etc it was possible to request ip space and on the
form specify you would not be connecting to the Internet.
So those off net users can't complain if ARIN allocated the
same ranges on net. Not that it's worth doing so now.
I hoped I
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 3:08 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
On Tue, 08 Feb 2011 14:59:12 PST, George Herbert said:
It's easy to say Well, foo on them, but for those of us who provide
services or consulting to those who failed to follow the directions,
we still have to deal with it.
Just
On Feb 8, 2011, at 5:12 PM, Lynda wrote:
On 2/8/2011 2:46 PM, Brandon Butterworth wrote:
Before arin etc it was possible to request ip space and on the
form specify you would not be connecting to the Internet.
So those off net users can't complain if ARIN allocated the
same ranges on net.
From: George Herbert [mailto:george.herb...@gmail.com]
Let's just grab 2/8, it's not routed on the Internet...
+1
I was consulting for a financial services firm in the late '90s that was
acquired by a large east-coast bank; the bank's brilliant scheme was to
renumber all new acquisitions
From: R. Benjamin Kessler ben.kess...@zenetra.com
From: George Herbert [mailto:george.herb...@gmail.com]
Let's just grab 2/8, it's not routed on the Internet...
+1
I was consulting for a financial services firm in the late '90s that was
acquired by a large east-coast bank; the bank's
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 6:54 PM, David Barak thegame...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: R. Benjamin Kessler ben.kess...@zenetra.com
From: George Herbert [mailto:george.herb...@gmail.com]
Let's just grab 2/8, it's not routed on the Internet...
+1
I was consulting for a financial services firm in the
-Original Message-
From: Jimmy Hess [mailto:mysi...@gmail.com]
The most important thing to ensure usage is recognized is that the
entire address space is announced plus routed,
I don't speak on behalf of a community, but in the past there have
been people reminding the ARIN
Hi,
If you are using your block, why would you worry?
If not are not using your block, why would you need it?
You may define using
Hint: even IPs not pingable from the Internet are being used. Not
everyone is an ISP/Webhoster ... with public services.
--
Viele Grüße / Kind Regards /
Hi, NANOG.
Something's just struck me: every IPv4 allocation over a certain
threshold has a monetary cost (sometimes in the tens of thousands of
USD) and according to our RIR, the first equivalent IPv6 allocation is
given as a freebie (to encourage migration). (Disclaimer: I'm on the
Dark
On Feb 4, 2011, at 6:47 PM, Heinrich Strauss wrote:
So once the early adopters migrate their networks to IPv6, there is no
business need to maintain the IPv4 allocation and that will be returned to
the free pool, since Business would see it as an unnecessary cost.
Interesting reasoning. I
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On Feb 4, 2011, at 10:47 AM, Heinrich Strauss wrote:
So once the early adopters migrate their networks to IPv6, there is no
business need to maintain the IPv4 allocation and that will be returned to
the free pool, since Business would see it as
On Feb 4, 2011, at 1:08 PM, Fred Baker wrote:
On Feb 4, 2011, at 6:47 PM, Heinrich Strauss wrote:
So once the early adopters migrate their networks to IPv6, there is no
business need to maintain the IPv4 allocation and that will be returned to
the free pool, since Business would see it as
On Feb 4, 2011, at 1:11 PM, Bill Woodcock wrote:
No, and in fact, I believe all the RIRs will probably do a reasonably brisk
business in reclamation and reallocation, albeit in ever smaller blocks.
As holder of a small block, this scares and irritates me. It scares me that I
might lose my
On Feb 4, 2011, at 3:39 PM, Daniel Seagraves wrote:
On Feb 4, 2011, at 1:11 PM, Bill Woodcock wrote:
No, and in fact, I believe all the RIRs will probably do a reasonably brisk
business in reclamation and reallocation, albeit in ever smaller blocks.
As holder of a small block, this
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On Feb 4, 2011, at 1:11 PM, Bill Woodcock wrote:
No, and in fact, I believe all the RIRs will probably do a reasonably brisk
business in reclamation and reallocation, albeit in ever smaller blocks.
On Feb 4, 2011, at 12:39 PM, Daniel
On Feb 4, 2011, at 4:45 PM, Jared Mauch wrote:
On Feb 4, 2011, at 3:41 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
On Feb 4, 2011, at 3:39 PM, Daniel Seagraves wrote:
On Feb 4, 2011, at 1:11 PM, Bill Woodcock wrote:
No, and in fact, I believe all the RIRs will probably do a reasonably
brisk business in
On Feb 4, 2011, at 3:51 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
I'm a little confused. Sounds like the things you are talking about all fall
into the if you are using your block category, so he shouldn't worry.
ARIN should not reclaim a block that is in use. Unless I am confused?
(Happens a
ARIN might decide that since we're ineligible for an allocation under
the current rules, we're no longer eligible to maintain the space we
have, and take it away from us.
ARIN don't know that
As the remaining space gets smaller, I expect that the number needed
to justify keeping my
On Feb 4, 2011, at 10:47 AM, Heinrich Strauss wrote:
Hi, NANOG.
Something's just struck me: every IPv4 allocation over a certain threshold
has a monetary cost (sometimes in the tens of thousands of USD) and according
to our RIR, the first equivalent IPv6 allocation is given as a freebie
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Daniel Seagraves
dseag...@humancapitaldev.com wrote:
On Feb 4, 2011, at 3:51 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
How many addresses do I have to be using for it to count as in use? How high
will that number go in the next few months/years?
The most important thing
On Feb 4, 2011, at 2:28 PM, Daniel Seagraves wrote:
On Feb 4, 2011, at 3:51 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
I'm a little confused. Sounds like the things you are talking about all
fall into the if you are using your block category, so he shouldn't worry.
ARIN should not reclaim a block
- Original Message -
From: Jimmy Hess mysi...@gmail.com
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Daniel Seagraves
dseag...@humancapitaldev.com wrote:
On Feb 4, 2011, at 3:51 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
How many addresses do I have to be using for it to count as in use?
How high will
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