Hello All,
let me tell you the final of the story with the hijacking of our networks.
So, in the end of July, we found some of our networks are announced
somewhere without our permission. That was the illegal announce from
Internap. We sent the letter to Internap on August, 11th. Internap
Hi All,
I looked up here http://www.robtex.com/as/as31733.html#graph internap on
24th of August and found Internap announced our networks to Telia, Cogent,
NTT, Glbx and Tinet.
I wrote to all of them.
First reply was from Tinet. They even had a time and wish to call me by the
phone. They said
Hello Adrian,
I tried to reply to list from office without the TOR you don't like, and got
this:
nanog@nanog.org: host mailman.nanog.org[204.93.212.138] said: 550-rejected
because 86.59.128.2 is in a black list at zen.spamhaus.org 550
http://www.spamhaus.org/SBL/sbl.lasso?query=SBL116130
Hi Denis,
Convenient as it may be to use a LIR and their historic provided prefixes,
have you thought about starting with a clean slate ?
If the company was close to bankrupt and one can only assume that it didn't
require a couple /16's and a couple /19's ...
Didn't you get ANY questions from
Hi Denis,
If Portnap doesn't / won't assist in this matter, you can send an abuse
message to both Tinet and NTT and have them reject the prefixes on their
ingress port.
They will probably only do that in case you have your AS record and route
objects correctly documented and can actually
Hi Erik,
The RIPE DB shows clear Internap have NO permission to route our networks as
the direct uplink. Am I wrong?
2011/8/21 Erik Bais eb...@a2b-internet.com
Hi Denis,
If Portnap doesn't / won't assist in this matter, you can send an abuse
message to both Tinet and NTT and have them
Of course, we have less customers than we have a year ago. Not a zero in any
case. Some parts of network was rented to other ISPs and will be returned.
Some was NATed after upstream shut down the BGP. How much IP we need now we
will discuss with RIPE NCC, if they will. First, we should have to
Where do you see the permission of Internap to transit our AS31733?
aut-num: AS31733
as-name: LINKTEL-AS
descr: Link Telecom PJSC
org: ORG-LTP1-RIPE
import: from AS8342 accept ANY
import: from AS12695 accept ANY
import: from AS44109
Hi Denis,
That is exactly why you might want to send an abuse msg to Tinet and NTT as
they as accepting the prefixes fromm Portnap.
Erik
Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad
Op Aug 21, 2011 om 12:44 heeft Denis Spirin n...@link-telecom.net het
volgende geschreven:
Where do you see the permission of
What I understand is that he is clamming that the registration of this
prefix was hijacked from him.
But honestly I do not what the problem is. Any how, it won't be solved
here.
Regards,
/as
On 21 Aug 2011, at 02:25, David Conrad wrote:
On Aug 20, 2011, at 6:01
On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 6:44 AM, Denis Spirin n...@link-telecom.net wrote:
Where do you see the permission of Internap to transit our AS31733?
aut-num: AS31733
as-name: LINKTEL-AS
descr: Link Telecom PJSC
org: ORG-LTP1-RIPE
import: from AS8342
On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 3:27 AM, Erik Bais eb...@a2b-internet.com wrote:
Convenient as it may be to use a LIR and their historic provided prefixes,
have you thought about starting with a clean slate ?
It's probably better for the network community if he _doesn't_ let an apparently
known hijack
On Aug 20, 2011, at 10:29 PM, Tammy A. Wisdom wrote:
I completely agree... the real issue here is the system is flawed and
RIPE/ARIN/APNIC etc have zero actual authority over actual routing. Yet
another reason they aren't worth the money we flush down the toilet for them
to do absolutely
RIPE/ARIN/APNIC etc have zero actual authority over actual routing.
That is not a flaw in the system, it is a fundamental precept of it. Their
function (In Curran's words: as the community has defined it) is as a
registry of allocation data, not as some kind of authoritative regional route
On Aug 20, 2011, at 10:29 PM, Tammy A. Wisdom wrote:
I completely agree... the real issue here is the system is flawed and
RIPE/ARIN/APNIC etc have zero actual authority over actual routing. Yet
another reason they aren't worth the money we flush down the toilet for them
to do absolutely
On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 05:26:46PM +, Nathan Eisenberg said:
John Curran appears to be completely open to constructive suggestions, so
if you have real and substantive input, why not contribute your intellect to
the problem and talk to him? Every organization has things they could be
On Sun, 21 Aug 2011, Ken Chase wrote:
That said, what is the de jure responce when a prefix is hijacked? Does
anyone have a 'best practices' guide? I am sure some of the most effective
vs legal practices are not in fact concomittant.
It doesn't hurt to complain/announce about it here and
Jimmy,
On Aug 21, 2011, at 8:15 AM, Jimmy Hess wrote:
The system is this way BY DESIGN, and any other method would concentrate
power
which would be detrimental to the internet and counter to its
open/consensus driven nature.
See recent discussions in RIPEland regarding BGPSEC+RPKI
John Curran appears to be completely open to constructive suggestions
very well phrased
unfortunately it is a long way to results, with very high variance
randy
Hello All,
I was hired by the Russian ISP company to get it back to the business. Due
to impact of the financial crisis, the company was almost bankrupt, but then
found the investor and have a big wish to life again.
When I tried to announce it's networks, upstreams rejected to accept it
because
Your claim Denis Spirin really-stinks!
./randy
--- On Sat, 8/20/11, Arturo Servin arturo.ser...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Arturo Servin arturo.ser...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Prefix hijacking by Michael Lindsay via Internap
To: Denis Spirin n...@link-telecom.net
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Date
On Saturday 20 August 2011 18:05, Denis Spirin wrote:
Hello All,
I was hired by the Russian ISP company to get it back to the business. Due
to impact of the financial crisis, the company was almost bankrupt, but
then found the investor and have a big wish to life again.
...
Received: from
RIPE NCC staff is already doing its investigation.
And RIPE NCC can't stop the routing at all.
2011/8/21 Suresh Ramasubramanian ops.li...@gmail.com
Just as interesting is that those prefixes are certainly on spamhaus.
This should turn out very interesting indeed - maybe RIPE NCC should
just
You could ask that they withdraw the prefixes and see if that works?
On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Denis Spirin n...@link-telecom.net wrote:
RIPE NCC staff is already doing its investigation.
And RIPE NCC can't stop the routing at all.
--
Suresh Ramasubramanian (ops.li...@gmail.com)
Yes, they are using our ASN 31733 to originate networks. All the visible
paths are through AS12182. Internap was contacted about a week ago, but did
nothing.
No, I'm not a venture capitalist, but IT specialist.
I am too sleepy, so replied to Adrian directly while wanted to post in the
list.
Get that changed first eh? It just might prove that you own those prefixes.
On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 9:02 AM, Denis Spirin n...@link-telecom.net wrote:
RIPE NCC can't withdraw any prefixes. They can do de-registration. In this
case it will not lead to withdraw, as it is announced without any
On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 11:18 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian
ops.li...@gmail.com wrote:
You could ask that they withdraw the prefixes and see if that works?
whois 46.96.0.0
inetnum:46.96.0.0 - 46.96.39.255
netname:LINKTEL-MAN-ETHERNET-EXTENSION
Updated:2011-03-15
I did ask him to try it and see if it works .. when it doesn't work,
that'd be the next act in this little dog and pony show.
On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 9:11 AM, William Herrin b...@herrin.us wrote:
The Spamhaus reports appear credible, as does the RIPE registration
issue with those prefixes. If
On 21 Aug 2011, at 00:28, Denis Spirin wrote:
Yes, they are using our ASN 31733 to originate networks. All the visible
paths are through AS12182. Internap was contacted about a week ago, but did
nothing.
Which seems to be the right decision because the whois data backed it
on.
On Aug 20, 2011, at 6:01 PM, Arturo Servin wrote:
If you are claiming right over these prefixes I suggest you to contact
RIPE NCC.
And that will do what exactly?
Back when I worked at an RIR, a prefix was misplaced. When I contacted the
(country monopoly PTT) ISP and told them the
: David Conrad d...@virtualized.org
To: Arturo Servin arturo.ser...@gmail.com
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 11:25:51 PM
Subject: Re: Prefix hijacking by Michael Lindsay via Internap
On Aug 20, 2011, at 6:01 PM, Arturo Servin wrote:
If you are claiming right over
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