Re: RBN and it's spin-offs

2010-01-02 Thread Tony Finch
On Wed, 30 Dec 2009, Paul Ferguson wrote: ...but as of the first of the year, alas, Krebs is no longer working for WaPo: You can continue to follow his work at http://www.krebsonsecurity.com/ Tony. -- f.anthony.n.finch d...@dotat.at http://dotat.at/ GERMAN BIGHT HUMBER: SOUTHWEST 5 TO 7.

RBN and it's spin-offs

2009-12-30 Thread Bruce Williams
Interesting article about RBN, it's spin-offs and the global network infrastructure used for cybercrime. Has a passing mention of Atrivo's place in the global picture. http://www.newsweek.com/id/228674 Reportedly started by someone operating under the name Flyman, RBN is known as the mother

RE: RBN and it's spin-offs

2009-12-30 Thread Keith Medcalf
Reportedly started by someone operating under the name Flyman, RBN is known as the mother of cybercrime among online investigators. François Paget, senior expert for the McAfee company, says that RBN began as an Internet provider and offered impenetrable hosting for $600 a month. This meant

Re: RBN and it's spin-offs

2009-12-30 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 4:00 AM, Keith Medcalf kmedc...@dessus.com wrote: Reportedly started by someone operating under the name Flyman, RBN is known as the mother of cybercrime among online investigators. François Paget, senior expert for the McAfee company, says that RBN began as an

RE: RBN and it's spin-offs

2009-12-30 Thread Keith Medcalf
Reportedly started by someone operating under the name Flyman, RBN is known as the mother of cybercrime among online investigators. François Paget, senior expert for the McAfee company, says that RBN began as an Internet provider and offered impenetrable hosting for $600 a month. This

Re: RBN and it's spin-offs

2009-12-30 Thread Paul Ferguson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Keith Medcalf kmedc...@dessus.com wrote: Without a warrant, there is an absolute right to privacy. It continues to exist right up until either (a) one party chooses to give up that privacy or (b) a third party

Re: RBN and it's spin-offs

2009-12-30 Thread William Pitcock
On Wed, 2009-12-30 at 20:12 -0800, Paul Ferguson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Keith Medcalf kmedc...@dessus.com wrote: Without a warrant, there is an absolute right to privacy. It continues to exist right up until either (a) one

Re: RBN and it's spin-offs

2009-12-30 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Ferg nailed it. I'll shut up now as he's made my point and its new year's eve .. On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Paul Ferguson fergdawgs...@gmail.com wrote: That's funny. You're assuming that the MLAT [1] process works -- it doesn't. - - ferg [1]

Re: RBN and it's spin-offs

2009-12-30 Thread Ricardo Tavares
Hey, I am not sure if this is the question asked in the first email. If I found a RBN fishing site, and ask RBN to shutdown the site, appears to me that this will not be done...so I need to block all the RBN cyber space, or initiate a fight for a warrant? I would prefer just block RBN sites...

Re: RBN and it's spin-offs

2009-12-30 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 11:13 PM, William Pitcock neno...@systeminplace.net wrote: It worked against Indymedia UK: http://www.indymedia.org/fbi/ indymedia is in texas, no mlat required. rbn was actually, for a good portion of their existence, in Russia (I believe St Petersburg, but my memory

Re: RBN and it's spin-offs

2009-12-30 Thread Paul Ferguson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 11:13 PM, William Pitcock neno...@systeminplace.net wrote: It worked against Indymedia UK: http://www.indymedia.org/fbi/ indymedia is in

Re: RBN and it's spin-offs

2009-12-30 Thread William Pitcock
On Wed, 2009-12-30 at 23:25 -0500, Christopher Morrow wrote: On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 11:13 PM, William Pitcock neno...@systeminplace.net wrote: It worked against Indymedia UK: http://www.indymedia.org/fbi/ indymedia is in texas, no mlat required. It was an MLAT initiated by the Dutch

Re: RBN and it's spin-offs

2009-12-30 Thread Paul Ferguson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 8:42 PM, Paul Ferguson fergdawgs...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 8:36 PM, William Pitcock neno...@systeminplace.net wrote: On Wed, 2009-12-30 at 23:25 -0500, Christopher Morrow wrote: On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at

RE: RBN and it's spin-offs

2009-12-30 Thread Tomas L. Byrnes
To: Keith Medcalf Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: RBN and it's spin-offs -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Keith Medcalf kmedc...@dessus.com wrote: Without a warrant, there is an absolute right to privacy. It continues to exist right up until either

Re: RBN and it's spin-offs

2009-12-30 Thread Paul Ferguson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 9:47 PM, Tomas L. Byrnes t...@byrneit.net wrote: That's funny. You're assuming that the MLAT [1] process works -- it doesn't. He's also assuming that US on-shore law applies, which it doesn't when any one party is a