Re: Console Server Recommendation

2012-02-01 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Owen DeLong said: > I would hardly call conserver software a home-baked solution unless you'd > also call anything based on OSS a "home-baked solution". Console server hardware: buy appliance, plug it in, set password/IP Home-baked box: buy server (or buy parts and assemble), bu

RE: Console Server Recommendation

2012-02-01 Thread Frank Bulk
We use WTI, too, just don't like it that it reboots to apply a change. Frank -Original Message- From: Christopher O'Brien [mailto:obria...@bc.edu] Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 9:59 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Console Server Recommendation On 1/30/12 11:08 AM,

RE: Console Server Recommendation

2012-02-01 Thread George Bonser
> It's a product you can download, compile, configure and it works out of > the box. > > It is pretty well supported by the authors and they have been very > responsive to each and every question/feature/other request I have made > to them, no matter how stupid. In fact, it has been better support

Re: Console Server Recommendation

2012-02-01 Thread Owen DeLong
On Feb 1, 2012, at 9:24 AM, Saku Ytti wrote: > On (2012-02-01 09:07 -0800), Owen DeLong wrote: > >> I would hardly call conserver software a home-baked solution unless you'd >> also call anything based on OSS a "home-baked solution". > > Home-baked, i.e. it's not product you can get shipped and

Re: Console Server Recommendation

2012-02-01 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2012-02-01 09:07 -0800), Owen DeLong wrote: > I would hardly call conserver software a home-baked solution unless you'd > also call anything based on OSS a "home-baked solution". Home-baked, i.e. it's not product you can get shipped and it'll work out of the box and you have organization sup

Re: Console Server Recommendation

2012-02-01 Thread Owen DeLong
On Jan 31, 2012, at 11:32 PM, Saku Ytti wrote: > On (2012-01-31 11:09 -0800), Owen DeLong wrote: > >>> - IP address mappable to a console port. So that accessing device normally >>> is 'ssh router' and via OOB 'ssh router.oob' no need to train people >> >> How about normal is 'ssh device' and O

Re: Console Server Recommendation

2012-02-01 Thread Christopher O'Brien
On 1/30/12 11:08 AM, Ray Soucy wrote: What are people using for console servers these days? We've historically used retired routers with ASYNC ports, but it's time for an upgrade. OpenGear seems to have some nice stuff, anyone else? I've been using Western Telematic TSM-40 console servers an

Re: Console Server Recommendation

2012-01-31 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2012-01-31 11:09 -0800), Owen DeLong wrote: > > - IP address mappable to a console port. So that accessing device normally > > is 'ssh router' and via OOB 'ssh router.oob' no need to train people > > How about normal is 'ssh device' and OOB is 'console device'? Home-baked systems are certa

Re: Console Server Recommendation

2012-01-31 Thread Owen DeLong
On Jan 31, 2012, at 1:11 AM, Saku Ytti wrote: > On (2012-01-30 11:08 -0500), Ray Soucy wrote: > >> What are people using for console servers these days? We've >> historically used retired routers with ASYNC ports, but it's time for >> an upgrade. > > This is very very common thread, replaying

Re: Console Server Recommendation

2012-01-31 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 31/01/2012 17:27, George Bonser wrote: > Wouldn't a program such as "conserver" running on a linux box someplace > potentially provide these (maybe with a little extra hackery)? We use > that quite a bit. One interesting option is that it allows another > person to also watch the console sessi

RE: Console Server Recommendation

2012-01-31 Thread George Bonser
> > I like feature list you posted, btw. If there were any console servers > out there with these features, I would buy a bunch of them. > Wouldn't a program such as "conserver" running on a linux box someplace potentially provide these (maybe with a little extra hackery)? We use that quite

Re: Console Server Recommendation

2012-01-31 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2012-01-31 10:01 +), Nick Hilliard wrote: > I like feature list you posted, btw. If there were any console servers out > there with these features, I would buy a bunch of them. I think OpenGear supports all of them (according to co-worker who tested them recently), but not 100% sure par

Re: Console Server Recommendation

2012-01-31 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 31/01/2012 09:11, Saku Ytti wrote: > For me, required features are This is part of the problem here. You want a terminal server which was designed for console access. Most of the terminal servers on the market are by-products of the modem dialin era and their development function was aimed at

Re: Console Server Recommendation

2012-01-31 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2012-01-30 11:08 -0500), Ray Soucy wrote: > What are people using for console servers these days? We've > historically used retired routers with ASYNC ports, but it's time for > an upgrade. This is very very common thread, replaying couple times a year in various lists, with to my cursory lo

Re: Console Server Recommendation

2012-01-30 Thread Mark Tinka
On Tuesday, January 31, 2012 12:08:45 AM Ray Soucy wrote: > What are people using for console servers these days? > We've historically used retired routers with ASYNC > ports, but it's time for an upgrade. Cisco 2811. Mark. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: Console Server Recommendation

2012-01-30 Thread Joe Hamelin
-1 for Cyclades. At least in Clear's DC plants the PCMCIA modems would often wedgie and require a re-insert. Also, if you have a DC power side fail, they beep and beep and beep. Very annoying when your power people are still catching up when you're trying to commission equipment. -- Joe Hamelin,

Re: Console Server Recommendation

2012-01-30 Thread Mark Gauvin
Currenly run 80+ raritan ksx boxes under the cc device with zero issue alot more expensive than othe solutions but the single point of touch is a life saver Sent from my iPhone On 2012-01-30, at 6:44 PM, "Christopher J. Pilkington" wrote: > On Jan 30, 2012, at 16:52, Robert Hajime Lanning

Re: Console Server Recommendation

2012-01-30 Thread Christopher J. Pilkington
On Jan 30, 2012, at 16:52, Robert Hajime Lanning wrote: > Avocent Cyclades ACS uses Cat5 straight through cables to Cisco consoles. We have Cyclades ACS boxen also, but ours require rollover cables, not straight, when talking to a Cisco console. YMMV.

Re: Console Server Recommendation

2012-01-30 Thread Coy Hile
> > Avocent Cyclades ACS uses Cat5 straight through cables to Cisco consoles. > > I use them in our lab and production sites. > I personally use these as well; so does work. There's a dongle for some things like the older Sun Netra devices that used an RJ45 console connector. One of the nicest f

Re: Console Server Recommendation

2012-01-30 Thread Robert Hajime Lanning
On 01/30/12 11:41, Brandon Butterworth wrote: Just buy the units that have the pinout for your devices, or you may need adapters. Hate that, I got a Cyclades by accident, never more. Lantronix is same pinout as cisco and everything else we use regularly. Avocent Cyclades ACS uses Cat5 straig

Re: Console Server Recommendation

2012-01-30 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "Michael Thomas" > Lantronix still makes terminal servers? Huh. I designed their first > ones over 20 years ago! And Lantronix has the *delightful* policy that *they will still support those units (assuming they do at all) free*, even if I bought them used.

Re: Console Server Recommendation

2012-01-30 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> Just buy the units that have the pinout for your devices, or you may > need adapters. Hate that, I got a Cyclades by accident, never more. Lantronix is same pinout as cisco and everything else we use regularly. > Lantronix still makes terminal servers? Huh. I designed their first > ones over 2

Re: Console Server Recommendation

2012-01-30 Thread Leigh Porter
On 30 Jan 2012, at 18:41, "Brent Jones" wrote: > Another +1 to Opengear > Just buy the units that have the pinout for your devices, or you may need > adapters. And making them gets boring very quickly! -- Leigh __ This email

RE: Console Server Recommendation

2012-01-30 Thread George Bonser
> -Original Message- > From: -Hammer- > Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 8:26 AM > Subject: Re: Console Server Recommendation > > Avocent Cyclades ACS. Enterprise class. > > http://www.avocent.com/Products/Category/Serial_Appliances.aspx > > -Hammer-

Re: Console Server Recommendation

2012-01-30 Thread Michael Thomas
Lantronix still makes terminal servers? Huh. I designed their first ones over 20 years ago! Mike Dan White wrote: +1 for the Lantronix SLC. On 01/30/12 11:24 -0500, Paul Stewart wrote: We really like Lantronix .. use them a lot. Paul -Original Message- From: Ray Soucy [mailto:r...

Re: Console Server Recommendation

2012-01-30 Thread Gino
+1 for Cyclades .. we've been using a few of these with a bunch 20-port PDU strips (2 x 15A circuits) and they've worked out pretty well for us. We did have some overheating issues with the PDU's though, but this was fixed with an adjustment to the HVAC (CYCLADES-ACS-PM-MIB is your friend ;-) --

Re: Console Server Recommendation

2012-01-30 Thread Brent Jones
Another +1 to Opengear Just buy the units that have the pinout for your devices, or you may need adapters. -- Brent Jones br...@brentrjones.com On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Asaf Rapoport wrote: > I use Opengear more often now on smaller installs.. Works well and they > have some neat add o

Re: Console Server Recommendation

2012-01-30 Thread Asaf Rapoport
I use Opengear more often now on smaller installs.. Works well and they have some neat add ons (Nagios, UPS monitoring etc) Asaf Rapoport On 1/30/12 9:31 AM, "Rafael Rodriguez" wrote: >Opengear > >On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Ray Soucy wrote: > >> What are people using for console

Re: Console Server Recommendation

2012-01-30 Thread Rafael Rodriguez
Opengear On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Ray Soucy wrote: > What are people using for console servers these days? We've > historically used retired routers with ASYNC ports, but it's time for > an upgrade. > > OpenGear seems to have some nice stuff, anyone else? > > -- > Ray Soucy > > Epic Co

Re: Console Server Recommendation

2012-01-30 Thread PC
Love the boxes. Absolutely despise the ~50 mhz processor they put in them that takes 10 seconds to negotiate SSH. On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 9:26 AM, -Hammer- wrote: > Avocent Cyclades ACS. Enterprise class. > > http://www.avocent.com/**Products/Category/Serial_**Appliances.aspx

Re: Console Server Recommendation

2012-01-30 Thread Ray Soucy
Thanks, all. On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Malte von dem Hagen wrote: > Hi, > > leigh.por...@ukbroadband.com wrote on Mo, 2012-01-30 at 17:47+0100: >> >> On 30 Jan 2012, at 16:10, "Ray Soucy" wrote: >> >>> What are people using for console servers these days?  We've >>> historically used re

Re: Console Server Recommendation

2012-01-30 Thread Malte von dem Hagen
Hi, leigh.por...@ukbroadband.com wrote on Mo, 2012-01-30 at 17:47+0100: > > On 30 Jan 2012, at 16:10, "Ray Soucy" wrote: > >> What are people using for console servers these days? We've >> historically used retired routers with ASYNC ports, but it's time for >> an upgrade. >> >> OpenGear seems

Re: Console Server Recommendation

2012-01-30 Thread Ian Goodall
On 30/01/2012 16:08, "Ray Soucy" wrote: >OpenGear seems to have some nice stuff, anyone else? +1 for OpenGear. They come in a range of port densities, AC or DC power, various OOB options and were significantly cheaper than the Avocet alternatives. I have used the IM4200 in larger sites and also

Re: Console Server Recommendation

2012-01-30 Thread Leigh Porter
On 30 Jan 2012, at 16:10, "Ray Soucy" wrote: > What are people using for console servers these days? We've > historically used retired routers with ASYNC ports, but it's time for > an upgrade. > > OpenGear seems to have some nice stuff, anyone else? > +1 for OpenGear. I asked this same quest

Re: Console Server Recommendation

2012-01-30 Thread Dan White
+1 for the Lantronix SLC. On 01/30/12 11:24 -0500, Paul Stewart wrote: We really like Lantronix .. use them a lot. Paul -Original Message- From: Ray Soucy [mailto:r...@maine.edu] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 11:09 AM To: NANOG Subject: Console Server Recommendation What are people

Re: Console Server Recommendation

2012-01-30 Thread -Hammer-
Avocent Cyclades ACS. Enterprise class. http://www.avocent.com/Products/Category/Serial_Appliances.aspx -Hammer- "I was a normal American nerd" -Jack Herer On 1/30/2012 10:08 AM, Ray Soucy wrote: What are people using for console servers these days? We've historically used retired routers

RE: Console Server Recommendation

2012-01-30 Thread Jensen Tyler
+1 Opengear Jensen Tyler Sr Engineering Manager Fiberutilities Group, LLC (319) 297-6915 (office) *NEW (319) 364-8100 (fax) (319) 329-8578 (mobile) -Original Message- From: Ray Soucy [mailto:r...@maine.edu] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 10:09 AM To: NANOG Subject: Console Server Recomm

RE: Console Server Recommendation

2012-01-30 Thread Paul Stewart
We really like Lantronix .. use them a lot. Paul -Original Message- From: Ray Soucy [mailto:r...@maine.edu] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 11:09 AM To: NANOG Subject: Console Server Recommendation What are people using for console servers these days? We've historically used retired ro

Re: Console Server Recommendation

2012-01-30 Thread Tim Jackson
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Matthew Huff wrote: > We use MRV, and are very happy with them: > > http://www.mrv.com/oobn/console-servers/ At least someone is.. We couldn't keep their -48vdc products from dying every few months requiring a manual reboot, or hardware replacement. Outside of t

Re: Console Server Recommendation

2012-01-30 Thread Pierre-Yves Maunier
2012/1/30 Ray Soucy > What are people using for console servers these days? We've > historically used retired routers with ASYNC ports, but it's time for > an upgrade. > > OpenGear seems to have some nice stuff, anyone else? > > -- > Ray Soucy > > We're using opengear CM4116 to have a remote con

RE: Console Server Recommendation

2012-01-30 Thread Matthew Huff
We use MRV, and are very happy with them: http://www.mrv.com/oobn/console-servers/ Matthew Huff | 1 Manhattanville Rd Director of Operations   | Purchase, NY 10577 OTA Management LLC | Phone: 914-460-4039 aim: matthewbhuff  | Fax:   914-460-4139 > -Original Me