Re: TLDs and file extensions (Re: DNS and potential energy)

2008-07-01 Thread Jean-François Mezei
David Conrad wrote: > People keep making the assertion that top-level domains that have the > same strings as popular file extensions will be a 'security disaster' Microsoft, in its infinite wisdom and desire to not abide by standards it has not set decided that instead of relying on the Mime

Re: DNS and potential energy

2008-07-01 Thread Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr.
Tony Finch wrote: So you say the solution for bad regulation is more regulation. Been the liberal-socialist mantra for eons. -- Requiescas in pace o email Two identifying characteristics of System Administrators: Ex turpi causa non orit

Re: DNS and potential energy

2008-07-01 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 13:13:31 EDT, "Jay R. Ashworth" said: > On Tue, Jul 01, 2008 at 12:43:54AM -0500, James Hess wrote: > > Maybe it's not that bad. The eventual result is instead of having a > > billion .COM SLDs, there are a billion TLDs: > > No, no, no, no, no. > > A billion people don't ha

Re: TLDs and file extensions (Re: DNS and potential energy)

2008-07-01 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
On Tue, Jul 01, 2008 at 06:08:43AM -0700, David Conrad wrote: > >Seeing as a certain popular operating system confounds local file > >access via > >Explorer with internet access... > > I gather you're implying MS Windows does this? Start->Run. Type in the full filename of a binary on your path

Re: DNS and potential energy

2008-07-01 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
On Tue, Jul 01, 2008 at 12:43:54AM -0500, James Hess wrote: > Maybe it's not that bad. The eventual result is instead of having a > billion .COM SLDs, there are a billion TLDs: No, no, no, no, no. A billion people don't have half-a-mil each to set up TLD registries. Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R.

Re: TLDs and file extensions (Re: DNS and potential energy)

2008-07-01 Thread Tony Finch
On Tue, 1 Jul 2008, David Conrad wrote: > > I could maybe see a problem with ".LOCAL" due to mdns or llmnr or ".1" > due to the risk of someone registering "127.0.0.1" RFC 1123 section 2.1 says TLDs can't be purely numeric. Tony. -- f.anthony.n.finch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://dotat.at/ BISCAY

Re: DNS and potential energy

2008-07-01 Thread Daniel Hagerty
Rob Pickering <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Or .com. Oddly enough I just now found a Windows box and typed > "command.com" in a browser URL bar and it did what I expected, when I > typed the same thing at a cmd prompt it did something different and I > expected that too. 1. Copy \windows\syste

Re: DNS and potential energy

2008-07-01 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 09:32:00 EDT, Marshall Eubanks said: > How many .com domains are there ? I have a _2001_ report of 19 > million. I would guess maybe 50 million by now. The last numbers I saw was 140M .coms. However, due to the incredible amount of churn due to domain-tasting by spammers, 5

Re: DNS and potential energy

2008-07-01 Thread John Levine
Once again, I am baffled that people would rather speculate than do five minutes of reading. (Well, maybe baffled isn't the word.) >There is the question of the fee structure. If the fee is really > $ >100,000 USD, then this will damp down the numbers considerably. The fee isn't set, but I hav

Re: DNS and potential energy

2008-07-01 Thread Tony Finch
On Tue, 1 Jul 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 07:19:45PM +0100, Tony Finch wrote: > > On Sun, 29 Jun 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > one might legitimately argue that ICANN is in need of some serious > > > regulation that can happen at that national level or

RE: TLDs and file extensions (Re: DNS and potential energy)

2008-07-01 Thread michael.dillon
> People keep making the assertion that top-level domains that > have the same strings as popular file extensions will be a > 'security disaster', but I've yet to see an explanation of > the potential exploits. I could maybe see a problem with > ".LOCAL" due to mdns or llmnr or ".1" due to the

Re: DNS and potential energy

2008-07-01 Thread Rob Pickering
Maybe it's not that bad. The eventual result is instead of having a billion .COM SLDs, there are a billion TLDs: all eggs in one There are simply not going to me billions, millions, or even probably tens of thousands of TLDs as a result of this. It's still a complex several months long adm

Re: DNS and potential energy

2008-07-01 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
On Tue, Jul 01, 2008 at 04:01:34AM -, Martin Hannigan wrote: > > Doesn't ICANN already work like an international regulator? > > No. They are more like the IETF than the ITU, but not quite the IETF. > It's hard to describe. The origins are Berkman Center for Internet > and Soceity at Harvard,

Re: DNS and potential energy

2008-07-01 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Jul 1, 2008, at 1:43 AM, James Hess wrote: I'm still having a hard time seeing what everyone is getting worked up about. Maybe it's not that bad. The eventual result is instead of having a billion .COM SLDs, there are a billion TLDs: all eggs in one basket, There is the question of t

TLDs and file extensions (Re: DNS and potential energy)

2008-07-01 Thread David Conrad
On Jun 30, 2008, at 10:43 PM, James Hess wrote: Sure, nefarious use of say .local could cause a few problems but this is I'd be more concerned about nefarious use of a TLD like ".DLL", ".EXE", ".TXT" Or other domains that look like filenames. Like .INFO, .PL, .SH, and, of course, .COM?

Re: DNS and potential energy

2008-07-01 Thread bmanning
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 07:19:45PM +0100, Tony Finch wrote: > On Sun, 29 Jun 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > one might legitimately argue that ICANN is in need of > > some serious regulation > > > > that can happen at that national level or on the international > > level.

Re: DNS and potential energy

2008-06-30 Thread James Hess
> I'm still having a hard time seeing what everyone is getting worked up about. Maybe it's not that bad. The eventual result is instead of having a billion .COM SLDs, there are a billion TLDs: all eggs in one basket, the root zone -- there will be so many gTLD servers, no DNS resolver can cache

RE: DNS and potential energy

2008-06-30 Thread Martin Hannigan
> Doesn't ICANN already work like an international regulator? No. They are more like the IETF than the ITU, but not quite the IETF. It's hard to describe. The origins are Berkman Center for Internet and Soceity at Harvard, and what is in existence today is a far cry from the original social

Re: DNS and potential energy

2008-06-30 Thread Tony Finch
On Sun, 29 Jun 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > one might legitimately argue that ICANN is in need of > some serious regulation > > that can happen at that national level or on the international > level. Doesn't ICANN already work like an international regulator? Ton

Re: DNS and potential energy

2008-06-30 Thread Rob Pickering
--On 29 June 2008 23:59 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: one might legitimately argue that ICANN is in need of some serious regulation that can happen at that national level or on the international level. It is very likely that "serious regulation" particularl

Re: DNS and potential energy

2008-06-29 Thread bmanning
this may actually be the straw that triggers a serious redesign of the Internet's lookup system(s)... if not this, then IPv6 has a good chance. Incremental changes are good - are stable (usually), and often can be compartmentalized. But sometimes - revolutionary changes are needed. and if

Re: DNS and potential energy

2008-06-29 Thread Martin Hannigan
This is currently a mostly capex-less exercise. I agree, the load is on operations, and likely at ICANN, VeriSign, and the DoC. We need way more detail than we have, but I hope all parties and the AC's move in a stewardship -and- commerce friendly direction with this. Even if it causes an e