Re: Google/Youtube problems

2012-11-19 Thread Nick Olsen
I stand corrected. That's what I get for going off memory. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: "Scott Whyte" Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 4:48 PM To: n...@flhsi.com Subject: Re: Google/Youtube problems On Mon, Nov

Re: Google/Youtube problems

2012-11-19 Thread Scott Whyte
g policy. Strict? Really? https://peering.google.com/about/peering_policy.html > > Nick Olsen > Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 > > > From: "Joly MacFie" > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 1:21 PM > To: "joel jae

Re: Google/Youtube problems

2012-11-19 Thread Nick Olsen
acFie" Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 1:21 PM To: "joel jaeggli" Subject: Re: Google/Youtube problems WIth my limited understanding of such topics I've long been confused by something I read a couple of years back - in an Arbor report perhaps - to the effect that by being t

Re: Google/Youtube problems

2012-11-19 Thread Michael Loftis
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 6:30 AM, Leo Bicknell wrote: > In a message written on Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 03:59:22PM +0200, Saku Ytti > wrote: > > What I'm trying to say, I can't see youtube generating anywhere nearly > > enough revenue who shift 10% (or more) of Internet. And to explain this > > conun

Re: Google/Youtube problems

2012-11-19 Thread Joly MacFie
WIth my limited understanding of such topics I've long been confused by something I read a couple of years back - in an Arbor report perhaps - to the effect that by being the originator of so much traffic, and as they built out their own network, Google were making money on transit. Can anyone ela

Re: Google/Youtube problems

2012-11-19 Thread joel jaeggli
On 11/19/12 5:59 AM, Saku Ytti wrote: What I'm trying to say, I can't see youtube generating anywhere nearly enough revenue who shift 10% (or more) of Internet. And to explain this conundrum to myself, I've speculated accounting magic (which I'd frown upon) and leveraging market position to get

Re: Google/Youtube problems

2012-11-19 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2012-11-19 06:30 -0800), Leo Bicknell wrote: > Consider a different model. Google checks out your gmail account, and > discovers you really like Red Bull and from your YouTube profile knows > you watch a lot of Ke$ha videos. It also discovers there are a lot more Sure. I have no doubt the m

RE: Google/Youtube problems

2012-11-19 Thread Adam Vitkovsky
[mailto:adam.vitkov...@swan.sk] Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 4:17 PM To: 'Leo Bicknell'; 'nanog@nanog.org' Subject: RE: Google/Youtube problems >From the latest csco prime presentation it appears it offers similar functionality in one of the modules that one can buy to it so th

RE: Google/Youtube problems

2012-11-19 Thread Adam Vitkovsky
Nor have I been hit by a targeted advertisement, yet adam -Original Message- From: Leo Bicknell [mailto:bickn...@ufp.org] Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 3:30 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Google/Youtube problems In a message written on Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 03:59:22PM +0200, Saku Yt

Re: Google/Youtube problems

2012-11-19 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 03:59:22PM +0200, Saku Ytti wrote: > What I'm trying to say, I can't see youtube generating anywhere nearly > enough revenue who shift 10% (or more) of Internet. And to explain this > conundrum to myself, I've speculated accounting magic (which I'd frown

Re: Google/Youtube problems

2012-11-19 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2012-11-19 08:27 -0500), Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: > Second, I see no reason why that requires anything close - not even within a > couple orders of magnitude - of 10% of the Internet's revenue to be > profitable. Why would you assume such a thing? Agreed, 10% of Internet's revenue would

Re: Google/Youtube problems

2012-11-19 Thread Patrick W . Gilmore
On Nov 19, 2012, at 03:05 , Saku Ytti wrote: > On (2012-11-18 23:47 +0100), Daniel Suchy wrote: > >> Is anyone else seeing similar problems with Google/Youtube? > > My advice is, host the content locally. Sound advice, IMHO. > I'm bit curious about market position youtube has. GOOG claims you

Re: Google/Youtube problems

2012-11-19 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2012-11-18 23:47 +0100), Daniel Suchy wrote: > Is anyone else seeing similar problems with Google/Youtube? My advice is, host the content locally. Certain Finnish domestic SPs had issues with youtube during peak hours for years, when content came via Stockholm, if content came from mainland