Re: Google Pagerank and "Class-C Addresses"

2009-09-22 Thread Warren Kumari
On Sep 21, 2009, at 2:01 PM, William Pitcock wrote: On Mon, 2009-09-21 at 18:18 +0200, Sebastian Wiesinger wrote: Hello Nanog, I'm looking into a weird request which more and more customers have. They want "different Class C addresses", by which they mean IPs in different /24 subnets. The ap

Re: Google Pagerank and "Class-C Addresses"

2009-09-22 Thread Michael Holstein
Good luck. Google doesn't disclose their algorithms. There doesn't appear to be any Google statement on this matter, either. No, but for "honest" folks, they do provide guidelines : http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=35769 One can't really fault Google for tak

Re: Google Pagerank and "Class-C Addresses"

2009-09-22 Thread Joe Greco
> On a similar issue, I have a debate going on in my company about SEO > and links coming from IP blocks allocated from different upstream > providers will improve page ranks. (So, if I have block A from > provider 1 and block B from provider 2, web sites linking each other > on block A & B, the r

Re: Google Pagerank and "Class-C Addresses"

2009-09-22 Thread Florian Weimer
* Sebastian Wiesinger: > I'm looking into a weird request which more and more customers have. > They want "different Class C addresses", by which they mean IPs in > different /24 subnets. It's not that weired at all. Others demand the same because it allegedly increases reliability. > My questi

Re: Google Pagerank and "Class-C Addresses"

2009-09-22 Thread Jay Nakamura
On a similar issue, I have a debate going on in my company about SEO and links coming from IP blocks allocated from different upstream providers will improve page ranks. (So, if I have block A from provider 1 and block B from provider 2, web sites linking each other on block A & B, the rank will g

Re: Google Pagerank and "Class-C Addresses"

2009-09-21 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 1:56 AM, Jeffrey Lyon wrote: > We used to have a lot of people buying IP's in bulk for SEO. They > would all cancel within one or two months citing that they couldn't > afford it or the project failed, etc. Guess they realized that the > whole thing is a myth. Or they burn

Re: Google Pagerank and "Class-C Addresses"

2009-09-21 Thread Adrian Chadd
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009, Jeffrey Lyon wrote: > We used to have a lot of people buying IP's in bulk for SEO. They > would all cancel within one or two months citing that they couldn't > afford it or the project failed, etc. Guess they realized that the > whole thing is a myth. .. or, which is more lik

Re: Google Pagerank and "Class-C Addresses"

2009-09-21 Thread Leslie
Sebastian Wiesinger wrote: Hello Nanog, I'm looking into a weird request which more and more customers have. They want "different Class C addresses", by which they mean IPs in different /24 subnets. The apparent reason for this is that Google will rank links from different /24 higher then lin

Re: Google Pagerank and "Class-C Addresses"

2009-09-21 Thread Ingo Flaschberger
Hey, I should tell my customers that the cross sum of the domains ip also count to the pagerank, and the ip 255.255.255.255 is the best of all. bye, ingo flaschberger

Re: Google Pagerank and "Class-C Addresses"

2009-09-21 Thread Jeffrey Lyon
We used to have a lot of people buying IP's in bulk for SEO. They would all cancel within one or two months citing that they couldn't afford it or the project failed, etc. Guess they realized that the whole thing is a myth. Jeff On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 4:09 PM, david raistrick wrote: > On Mon, 2

RE: Google Pagerank and "Class-C Addresses"

2009-09-21 Thread david raistrick
On Mon, 21 Sep 2009, david raistrick wrote: I got -fired- my first day after explaining why using proxy servers spread I should note that I was asked what I'd do with that type of setup, and assumed it was either a hypothetical situation or something that they were looking to addressI ha

RE: Google Pagerank and "Class-C Addresses"

2009-09-21 Thread david raistrick
On Mon, 21 Sep 2009, David Hubbard wrote: We've had customers leave and go elsewhere after refusing to give them IP's they didn't need because they were convinced by some SEO 'expert' that they need a bunch of doorway sites on a variety of /24's. If someone is willing to leave their host over

RE: Google Pagerank and "Class-C Addresses"

2009-09-21 Thread David Hubbard
From: Scott Howard [mailto:sc...@doc.net.au] > > > This is not true. It's been well documented that PageRank > uses a number of > metrics, probably the most important of them (in terms of > ranking) being the > number of links to a page or site (and I believe, the PageRank of the > pages/webs

Re: Google Pagerank and "Class-C Addresses"

2009-09-21 Thread Scott Howard
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Ray Burkholder wrote: > Just in case anyone cares, from personal experience, I can see that > Google's > priority is indeed 'rank by content'. Everything else is fluff. This is not true. It's been well documented that PageRank uses a number of metrics, probab

RE: Google Pagerank and "Class-C Addresses"

2009-09-21 Thread Ray Burkholder
> > > > The apparent reason for this is that Google will rank links from > > different /24 higher then links from the same /24. So it's a SEO > > thingy. > > Just in case anyone cares, from personal experience, I can see that Google's priority is indeed 'rank by content'. Everything else is fluff

Re: Google Pagerank and "Class-C Addresses"

2009-09-21 Thread William Pitcock
On Mon, 2009-09-21 at 18:18 +0200, Sebastian Wiesinger wrote: > Hello Nanog, > > I'm looking into a weird request which more and more customers have. > They want "different Class C addresses", by which they mean IPs in > different /24 subnets. > > The apparent reason for this is that Google will

Re: Google Pagerank and "Class-C Addresses"

2009-09-21 Thread Joel Jaeggli
Got to stop using classful addressing terminology... It's only been 16 or so years and you're not referring to: 192.0.0.0/5 Snake-oil salesmen abound in this space. More to the point, any technique used to sculpt pank-rank scores on a systematic basis is likely to result in a countervailing adjus

RE: Google Pagerank and "Class-C Addresses"

2009-09-21 Thread Mike Gazzerro
Matt Cutts, who works for Google, has iterated over and over that this is absolutely, positively, not the case and does not help page rank: http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/myth-busting-virtual-hosts-vs-dedicated-ip-addresses/ So there's an answer from someone at Google. How do I answer such reque