Re: IPv4 Address Exhaustion Effects on the Earth

2011-04-06 Thread Jim Gettys
On 04/05/2011 06:17 PM, Jared Mauch wrote: On Apr 5, 2011, at 6:07 PM, Jim Gettys wrote: On 04/05/2011 05:59 PM, Michael Proto wrote: On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 5:38 PM, Jared Mauch wrote: On Apr 4, 2011, at 4:30 PM, Jim Gettys wrote: Note that the paper "Characterizing Residential Broadband

Re: IPv4 Address Exhaustion Effects on the Earth

2011-04-05 Thread Jared Mauch
On Apr 5, 2011, at 6:07 PM, Jim Gettys wrote: > On 04/05/2011 05:59 PM, Michael Proto wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 5:38 PM, Jared Mauch wrote: >>> On Apr 4, 2011, at 4:30 PM, Jim Gettys wrote: >>> Note that the paper "Characterizing Residential Broadband Networks" by Dischinger,

Re: IPv4 Address Exhaustion Effects on the Earth

2011-04-05 Thread Jim Gettys
On 04/05/2011 05:59 PM, Michael Proto wrote: On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 5:38 PM, Jared Mauch wrote: On Apr 4, 2011, at 4:30 PM, Jim Gettys wrote: Note that the paper "Characterizing Residential Broadband Networks" by Dischinger, et. al. indicates that a large fraction (in their 2 year old sample

Re: IPv4 Address Exhaustion Effects on the Earth

2011-04-05 Thread Michael Proto
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 5:38 PM, Jared Mauch wrote: > > On Apr 4, 2011, at 4:30 PM, Jim Gettys wrote: > >> Note that the paper "Characterizing Residential Broadband Networks" by >> Dischinger, et. al. indicates that a large fraction (in their 2 year old >> sample, 30% or so) of broadband head end

Re: IPv4 Address Exhaustion Effects on the Earth

2011-04-05 Thread Jared Mauch
On Apr 4, 2011, at 4:30 PM, Jim Gettys wrote: > Note that the paper "Characterizing Residential Broadband Networks" by > Dischinger, et. al. indicates that a large fraction (in their 2 year old > sample, 30% or so) of broadband head ends are running without RED, and should > be doing so if at

Re: IPv4 Address Exhaustion Effects on the Earth

2011-04-05 Thread Jim Gettys
On 04/04/2011 10:48 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: Note that the paper "Characterizing Residential Broadband Networks" by Dischinger, et. al. indicates that a large fraction (in their 2 year old sample, 30% or so) of broadband head ends are running without RED, and should be doing so if at all possible;

Re: IPv4 Address Exhaustion Effects on the Earth

2011-04-04 Thread Jay Ashworth
> Note that the paper "Characterizing Residential Broadband Networks" by > Dischinger, et. al. indicates that a large fraction (in their 2 year > old > sample, 30% or so) of broadband head ends are running without RED, and > should be doing so if at all possible; alternatives are years out by > the

RE: IPv4 Address Exhaustion Effects on the Earth

2011-04-04 Thread George Bonser
> In the mean while, we've started work on various AQM and buffer > management systems, at www.bufferbloat.net. SFB (Stochastic Fair Blue) > went upstream into Linux to aid testing last month, and we have an > implementation of eBDP as well with which we are experimenting. > Wireless is much more

Re: IPv4 Address Exhaustion Effects on the Earth

2011-04-04 Thread Jim Gettys
On 04/03/2011 10:04 PM, George Bonser wrote: Sigh... A major opportunity missed. Unfortunately the bufferbloat problem isn't a laughing matter, though I do wish I had thought of this idea in time for my talk. I will include this joke as some levity about the mess we're in as I repeat the t

Re: IPv4 Address Exhaustion Effects on the Earth

2011-04-04 Thread Bryan Irvine
On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 8:30 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote: > >> Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2011 04:18:00 +0200 >> From: Alexander Maassen >> Subject: Re: IPv4 Address Exhaustion Effects on the Earth >> >> wil, >> maybe after all this time you got the router,

RE: IPv4 Address Exhaustion Effects on the Earth

2011-04-03 Thread George Bonser
> > Sigh... A major opportunity missed. > > Unfortunately the bufferbloat problem isn't a laughing matter, though I > do wish I had thought of this idea in time for my talk. I will include > this joke as some levity about the mess we're in as I repeat the talk > going forward, and would tie in

Re: IPv4 Address Exhaustion Effects on the Earth

2011-04-03 Thread Christian de Larrinaga
The audio I found at http://ietf80streaming.dnsalias.net/ietf80/ietf80-ch4-wed-am.mp3 Christian On 3 Apr 2011, at 20:53, Jim Gettys wrote: > On 04/01/2011 11:44 AM, George Bonser wrote: >>> From: Joao C. Mendes Ogawa >>> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 6:14 PM >>> Subject: Fwd: IPv4 Address Exhau

Re: IPv4 Address Exhaustion Effects on the Earth

2011-04-03 Thread Jim Gettys
On 04/01/2011 11:44 AM, George Bonser wrote: From: Joao C. Mendes Ogawa Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 6:14 PM Subject: Fwd: IPv4 Address Exhaustion Effects on the Earth FYI --Jonny Ogawa - Forwarded message from Stephen H. Inden - Dang, I was hoping to see an RFC on Bufferbloat in

Re: IPv4 Address Exhaustion Effects on the Earth

2011-04-01 Thread Robert Bonomi
> Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2011 04:18:00 +0200 > From: Alexander Maassen > Subject: Re: IPv4 Address Exhaustion Effects on the Earth > > wil, > maybe after all this time you got the router, it gained 7lbs of all the > dust in it ? Consider what happens if the carrier encount

Re: IPv4 Address Exhaustion Effects on the Earth

2011-04-01 Thread Alexander Maassen
wil, maybe after all this time you got the router, it gained 7lbs of all the dust in it ? Op 1-4-2011 3:26, Wil Schultz schreef: > On Mar 31, 2011, at 6:14 PM, "Joao C. Mendes Ogawa" > wrote: > >> FYI >> >> --Jonny Ogawa >> >> - Forwarded message from Stephen H. Inden - >> >> From: Steph

RE: IPv4 Address Exhaustion Effects on the Earth

2011-04-01 Thread George Bonser
> From: Joao C. Mendes Ogawa > Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 6:14 PM > Subject: Fwd: IPv4 Address Exhaustion Effects on the Earth > > FYI > > --Jonny Ogawa > > - Forwarded message from Stephen H. Inden - > Dang, I was hoping to see an RFC on Bufferbloat in Avian Carriers and how tai

Re: IPv4 Address Exhaustion Effects on the Earth

2011-03-31 Thread Wil Schultz
On Mar 31, 2011, at 6:14 PM, "Joao C. Mendes Ogawa" wrote: > FYI > > --Jonny Ogawa > > - Forwarded message from Stephen H. Inden - > > From: Stephen H. Inden > Subject: IPv4 Address Exhaustion Effects on the Earth > Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 00:19:08 +0200 > To: Global Environment Watch (