Re: IPv4 Legacy assignment frustration

2016-07-01 Thread Mike Hammett
@maine.edu> Cc: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 10:23:39 AM Subject: Re: IPv4 Legacy assignment frustration Hi Ray, Kraig I think people affected just have to try to put pressure on their isps in the path between the afffected ips and hope for the best... public pressure is proba

Re: IPv4 Legacy assignment frustration

2016-06-23 Thread Tom Smyth
Hi Ray, Kraig I think people affected just have to try to put pressure on their isps in the path between the afffected ips and hope for the best... public pressure is probably the only way to get around what I think most of us would agree is a terrible practice... I really hope that we can get rid

Re: IPv4 Legacy assignment frustration

2016-06-23 Thread Ray Soucy
Regardless of whether or not people "should" do this, I think the horse has already left the barn on this one. I don't see any way of getting people who decided to filter all of APNIC to make changes. Most of them are static configurations that they'll never look to update. On Wed, Jun 22, 2016

Re: IPv4 Legacy assignment frustration

2016-06-22 Thread Kraig Beahn
The following might add some clarity, depending upon how you look at it: We, as "core" engineers know better than to use some of the sources listed below, tho, my suspicion is that when an engineer or local IT person, on an edge network starts to see various types of attacks, they play

RE: IPv4 Legacy assignment frustration

2016-06-22 Thread Tony Finch
Spurling, Shannon wrote: > It’s a problem with the miss-use of the RIR delegation of a legacy > block. > > The assumption that because a block is assigned to a particular RIR, all > users in that block have to be in that RIR’s territory, without actually > running a query

Re: IPv4 Legacy assignment frustration

2016-06-22 Thread Alastair Johnson
On 6/22/16 6:36 AM, Spurling, Shannon wrote: It’s a problem with the miss-use of the RIR delegation of a legacy block. The assumption that because a block is assigned to a particular RIR, all users in that block have to be in that RIR’s territory, without actually running a query against that

RE: IPv4 Legacy assignment frustration

2016-06-22 Thread Spurling, Shannon
...@gmail.com [mailto:christopher.mor...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Morrow Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 10:36 PM To: Suresh Ramasubramanian <ops.li...@gmail.com> Cc: Spurling, Shannon <shan...@more.net>; nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: IPv4 Legacy assignment frustration how is th

Re: IPv4 Legacy assignment frustration

2016-06-21 Thread Christopher Morrow
how is this a problem with the RIR ? On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 11:01 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian < ops.li...@gmail.com> wrote: > There is absolutely no budgeting for idiots. Beyond a long hard process > that is helped by internal escalations from affected people on a corporate > network - ideally

Re: IPv4 Legacy assignment frustration

2016-06-21 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
There is absolutely no budgeting for idiots. Beyond a long hard process that is helped by internal escalations from affected people on a corporate network - ideally as senior as you can get - ot their IT staff. “Missouri isn’t in China, you nitwit. Fix it or I, the CFO, will go have a word