Re: IPv6 SEO implecations?

2011-03-31 Thread Wil Schultz
On Mar 30, 2011, at 4:55 PM, Wil Schultz wrote: On Mar 30, 2011, at 4:39 PM, Alexander Harrowell a.harrow...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 29 Mar 2011 17:54:27 Wil Schultz wrote: On Mar 29, 2011, at 3:51 AM, Franck Martin wrote: And here's a breakdown of which user agents are seen

Re: IPv6 SEO implecations?

2011-03-30 Thread Alexander Harrowell
On Tuesday 29 Mar 2011 17:54:27 Wil Schultz wrote: On Mar 29, 2011, at 3:51 AM, Franck Martin wrote: And here's a breakdown of which user agents are seen on which ip, as you can see the user-agent doesn't exactly match IP range. Googlebot-Image/1.0 Mozilla/5.0 (compatible;

Re: IPv6 SEO implecations?

2011-03-30 Thread Wil Schultz
On Mar 30, 2011, at 4:39 PM, Alexander Harrowell a.harrow...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 29 Mar 2011 17:54:27 Wil Schultz wrote: On Mar 29, 2011, at 3:51 AM, Franck Martin wrote: And here's a breakdown of which user agents are seen on which ip, as you can see the user-agent doesn't

Re: IPv6 SEO implecations?

2011-03-30 Thread Franck Martin
On 3/31/11 11:55 , Wil Schultz wschu...@bsdboy.com wrote: On Mar 30, 2011, at 4:39 PM, Alexander Harrowell a.harrow...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 29 Mar 2011 17:54:27 Wil Schultz wrote: On Mar 29, 2011, at 3:51 AM, Franck Martin wrote: And here's a breakdown of which user agents are

Re: IPv6 SEO implecations?

2011-03-29 Thread Franck Martin
On 3/29/11 10:18 , Wil Schultz wschu...@bsdboy.com wrote: I'm attempting to find out information on the SEO implications of testing ipv6 out. 3) ??? Any others that I haven't thought of ??? So basically I'd love to set up some sites for ipv6.domain.com via 6to4 as a phase one, and at some

Re: IPv6 SEO implecations?

2011-03-29 Thread Arturo Servin
On 29 Mar 2011, at 00:18, Wil Schultz wrote: I'm attempting to find out information on the SEO implications of testing ipv6 out. A couple of concerns that come to mind are: 1) www.domain.com and ipv6.domain.com are serving the exact same content. Typical SEO standards are to only

Re: IPv6 SEO implecations?

2011-03-29 Thread Wil Schultz
On Mar 29, 2011, at 3:51 AM, Franck Martin wrote: On 3/29/11 10:18 , Wil Schultz wschu...@bsdboy.com wrote: I'm attempting to find out information on the SEO implications of testing ipv6 out. 3) ??? Any others that I haven't thought of ??? So basically I'd love to set up some

Re: IPv6 SEO implecations?

2011-03-28 Thread William Pitcock
On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 15:18:30 -0700 Wil Schultz wschu...@bsdboy.com wrote: I'm attempting to find out information on the SEO implications of testing ipv6 out. A couple of concerns that come to mind are: 1) www.domain.com and ipv6.domain.com are serving the exact same content. Typical SEO

Re: IPv6 SEO implecations?

2011-03-28 Thread Owen DeLong
On Mar 28, 2011, at 3:18 PM, Wil Schultz wrote: I'm attempting to find out information on the SEO implications of testing ipv6 out. A couple of concerns that come to mind are: 1) www.domain.com and ipv6.domain.com are serving the exact same content. Typical SEO standards are to only

Re: IPv6 SEO implecations?

2011-03-28 Thread Karl Auer
On Mon, 2011-03-28 at 15:55 -0700, Owen DeLong wrote: If you're worried about SEO, go with native IPv6 and then deploy s for WWW.domain.foo. Why is native IPv6 needed? I'd have thought a tunnel would be fine, too. Regards, K. --

RE: IPv6 SEO implecations?

2011-03-28 Thread Nathan Eisenberg
Why is native IPv6 needed? I'd have thought a tunnel would be fine, too. I believe the concern is that the higher latency of a tunnel would impact SEO rankings.

Re: IPv6 SEO implecations?

2011-03-28 Thread TR Shaw
On Mar 28, 2011, at 7:10 PM, Karl Auer wrote: On Mon, 2011-03-28 at 15:55 -0700, Owen DeLong wrote: If you're worried about SEO, go with native IPv6 and then deploy s for WWW.domain.foo. Why is native IPv6 needed? I'd have thought a tunnel would be fine, too. So why does www A

Re: IPv6 SEO implecations?

2011-03-28 Thread TR Shaw
On Mar 28, 2011, at 7:17 PM, Nathan Eisenberg wrote: Why is native IPv6 needed? I'd have thought a tunnel would be fine, too. I believe the concern is that the higher latency of a tunnel would impact SEO rankings. True but you live with what you can get acces to ;-) Tom

Re: IPv6 SEO implecations?

2011-03-28 Thread Wil Schultz
On Mar 28, 2011, at 3:55 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: On Mar 28, 2011, at 3:18 PM, Wil Schultz wrote: I'm attempting to find out information on the SEO implications of testing ipv6 out. A couple of concerns that come to mind are: 1) www.domain.com and ipv6.domain.com are serving the exact

Re: IPv6 SEO implecations?

2011-03-28 Thread Nicholas Meredith
I would be getting ipv6 connectivity, adding an unknown record such as ipv6 or www6; but not www, and do as many comparative ipv4 vs ipv6 tracerouts from as many route servers as possible. Then you will have the data you need to actually make an informed decision rather than just guessing how

RE: IPv6 SEO implecations?

2011-03-28 Thread Nathan Eisenberg
I would be getting ipv6 connectivity, adding an unknown record such as ipv6 or www6; but not www, and do as many comparative ipv4 vs ipv6 tracerouts from as many route servers as possible. Then you will have the data you need to actually make an informed decision rather than just guessing

Re: IPv6 SEO implecations?

2011-03-28 Thread Nicholas Meredith
Why do you even need a record to do that? Just do a traceroute to the v6 address. The temporary record seems to do nothing useful in your proposed procedure. Easiest hack to test site usability: Modify your hosts file. Don't even publish the record in DNS until you're ready.

Re: IPv6 SEO implecations?

2011-03-28 Thread Owen DeLong
On Mar 28, 2011, at 4:10 PM, Karl Auer wrote: On Mon, 2011-03-28 at 15:55 -0700, Owen DeLong wrote: If you're worried about SEO, go with native IPv6 and then deploy s for WWW.domain.foo. Why is native IPv6 needed? I'd have thought a tunnel would be fine, too. He was worried about the

Re: IPv6 SEO implecations?

2011-03-28 Thread Owen DeLong
On Mar 28, 2011, at 4:20 PM, TR Shaw wrote: On Mar 28, 2011, at 7:10 PM, Karl Auer wrote: On Mon, 2011-03-28 at 15:55 -0700, Owen DeLong wrote: If you're worried about SEO, go with native IPv6 and then deploy s for WWW.domain.foo. Why is native IPv6 needed? I'd have thought a

Re: IPv6 SEO implecations?

2011-03-28 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 03:18:30PM -0700, Wil Schultz wrote: I'm attempting to find out information on the SEO implications of testing ipv6 out. I don't run a web site where SEO is a top priority, so I don't track such things. Quite simply, who's crawling on IPv6? That

Re: IPv6 SEO implecations?

2011-03-28 Thread Ryan Rawdon
On Mar 28, 2011, at 9:50 PM, Leo Bicknell wrote: In a message written on Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 03:18:30PM -0700, Wil Schultz wrote: I'm attempting to find out information on the SEO implications of testing ipv6 out. I don't run a web site where SEO is a top priority, so I don't track

Re: IPv6 SEO implecations?

2011-03-28 Thread Jimmy Hess
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Wil Schultz wschu...@bsdboy.com wrote: I'm attempting to find out information on the SEO implications of testing ipv6 out. A couple of concerns that come to mind are: 1) www.domain.com and ipv6.domain.com are serving the exact same content. Typical SEO

Re: IPv6 SEO implecations?

2011-03-28 Thread Fred Baker
On Mar 29, 2011, at 1:21 AM, Wil Schultz wrote: So far the consensus is to run dual stack natively. While this definitely is the way things should be set up in the end, I can see some valid reasons to run ipv4 and ipv6 on separate domains for a while before final configuration. For