Re: Latest instalment of the "hijacked /16s" story

2008-06-17 Thread Justin Shore
Is the whole AS (33302) rogue like the AS advertising the SF Bay Packet Radio block is? Looking at the WHOIS for some of the prefixes advertised by both ASs, I see some common company names. That would lead me to believe that 33302 is no better than 33211 but I can't confirm that. Any takers

Re: Latest instalment of the "hijacked /16s" story

2008-06-17 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 9:40 AM, Justin Shore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is the whole AS (33302) rogue like the AS advertising the SF Bay Packet > Radio block is? Looking at the WHOIS for some of the prefixes advertised by > both ASs, I see some common company names. That would lead me to belie

Re: Latest instalment of the "hijacked /16s" story

2008-06-17 Thread Randy Bush
Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: > Another legacy /16, after the previous one - the sf bay packet radio /16 > http://www.47-usc-230c2.org/chapter3.html > This time 128.168/16 - and by the same group that seems to have acquired > control of the earlier one. luckily, there is no black market in address

RE: Latest instalment of the "hijacked /16s" story

2008-06-17 Thread Tomas L. Byrnes
> Cc: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: Latest instalment of the "hijacked /16s" story > > Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: > > Another legacy /16, after the previous one - the sf bay > packet radio > > /16 http://www.47-usc-230c2.org/chapter3.html > >

RE: Latest instalment of the "hijacked /16s" story

2008-06-18 Thread michael.dillon
> > http://www.47-usc-230c2.org/chapter3.html > > This time 128.168/16 - and by the same group that seems to have > > acquired control of the earlier one. > > luckily, there is no black market in address space. or at > least so the theory goes on arin and ripe public policy lists. No, the th

Re: Latest instalment of the "hijacked /16s" story

2008-06-18 Thread Joe Provo
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 10:59:21PM -0700, Tomas L. Byrnes wrote: [snip] > "See no evil, hear no evil, fear no evil" The (human) operators who cared have been pushed out by the (coprorate) operators who would rather disavow responsibility, turn up quickly, and book the revenue instead of vetting

Re: Latest instalment of the "hijacked /16s" story

2008-06-18 Thread Jared Mauch
On Jun 18, 2008, at 7:57 AM, Joe Provo wrote: On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 10:59:21PM -0700, Tomas L. Byrnes wrote: [snip] "See no evil, hear no evil, fear no evil" The (human) operators who cared have been pushed out by the (coprorate) operators who would rather disavow responsibility, turn up q

Re: Latest instalment of the "hijacked /16s" story

2008-06-18 Thread Randy Bush
> The (human) operators who cared have been pushed out by the > (coprorate) operators who would rather disavow responsibility, > turn up quickly, and book the revenue instead of vetting any > customer claims for basis in fact or reason. Customer > filtering -even when black hats drive an AS- is