dstora...@teljet.com (David Storandt) wrote:
> Our engineering team has settled on three $20k/node options:
> - Sup720-3BXLs with PS and fan upgrades
Still quite slow CPU wise. RSP's are supposed to be a lot faster
and actually usable.
> - Sup2s as switches + ISIS + statics and no BGP, push BGP
We've never pushed a NPE-G2 to 800Mb/s before but I would think they
would topple over... hopefully someone on here could confirm my
statement?
Moving the BGP to the 12008's would be my choice with PRP-2 processors
if the budget fits we're faced with a similar upgrade next year
possibly moving
We're running several six 65xx Sup720-3BXL with 3 full transit views and
some 40-odd peers. We use two NPE-G1s for reflectors and some policy
manipulation. Also running MPLS in the core to allow for traffic
engineering and EoMPLS between certain services located in different
locations.
We're pu
We ran into a similar quandary and have about the same amount of traffic as your
network. When purchasing gear a year ago we decided against 7200's with an
NPE-G2 as insufficient for the load. Have you looked at the 7304?
The Cisco 7304 with an NSE-150 processing engine on it offloads a lot of
Cisco 7304 may not adequate for service provider.
It's CPU/IO-controller is tied together, and doesn't provide much of
benefit.
Cisco 7200/7300 is enterprise solution pretty much, and doesn't support
distributed CEF.
If you are considering SUP720-3BXL, why not considering RSP720-3CXL ?
Alex
Aa
I would love to use the RSP720-3CXL, but cost and the PA OC3 are the
difficulties.
If the RSP720s will run in a 6500 chassis, great! We wouldn't have to
purchase new chassis and the increased downtime for the swap-out.
RSP720 don't support the older bus-only FlexWAN either with the OC3 PA
we're u
I have used the 7304 in the past and was happy with it. In fact I
still have a 6-port DS3 module for a 7304 which I need to find a home
for if anyone has the need.
The 7304 originally had its own specific modules that went into it.
But they also sell carrier card for it so you can use s
David,
My 1st advice would be to look also at the other features/capabilities you
require, and not just at "feeds and speeds".
Some examples for functionality could be:
- QOS
- NetFlow
- DDoS resistance
In general the 6500 and the 12000 are hardware based platforms, with the
12000 being more dis
You may also take a look at the Cisco ASR1000 line... Supposedly a
middle step between 7200 and 7600 router sizing..
> -Original Message-
> From: Arie Vayner [mailto:arievay...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 1:34 PM
> To: David Storandt
> Cc: NANOG list
> S
> We need true full routes and more CPU horsepower for crunching BGP
> (+12 smaller peers + ISIS). OC3 interfaces are going to be mandatory,
> one each at two locations. Oh yeah, we're still a larger startup
> without endless pockets. Power, rack space, and SmartNet are not
> concerns at any locati
Yeah, as long as you're using the NSE-150 and are using features supported by
the PXF such that it's not punting to the RP, the performance is really good.
--am
Brian Feeny wrote:
I have used the 7304 in the past and was happy with it. In fact I still
have a 6-port DS3 module for a 7304 whi
New architectures might be helpful to achieve such throughput e.g.
Myricom pci-e Gen2 10GE cards on new Intel Nehalem based servers.
-Azher
Leo Bicknell wrote:
> In a message written on Fri, May 15, 2009 at 10:25:12PM -0400,
> valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
>> Did you check PCI bus bandwidth? T
So I figure a summary is an order, with a whole array of choices
pitched so far...
- Sup720-3BXL works for light-duty premium ISP services, decent CPU
for BGP and an Ethernet hardware throughput monster. Decent enough for
our deployment scenario at least. No obvious solution for the
FlexWAN/OC3 bu
In a message written on Fri, May 15, 2009 at 10:25:12PM -0400,
valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
> Did you check PCI bus bandwidth? That's probably going to be the biggest
> constraint on "a few 10GBE interfaces" if they all get going full blast.
> Remember that each packet is going to burn bandwidt
ASR is embedded linux solution with Quantum Processor architect if I
remember correctly.
So it uses IOS-XE, which is a little bit different from standard IOS.
If you have some room for budget, you can check Foundry MLX/XMR series
router.
It is more geared toward Ethernet Service Router.
But if y
On Fri, 15 May 2009 22:20:28 EDT, David Storandt said:
> - Vyatta was proposed as an alternative system, probably best
> architected out of the mainstream traffic flows (no hardware
> forwarding), say a BGP route reflector or GBE edge router, similar
> argument to a 7200/G[1|2]. I can't say I'm fa
On Fri, 15 May 2009, Leo Bicknell wrote:
PCIe, x8 or x16, which is serial point to point.
http://www.csc.kth.se/~olofh/10G_OSR/10Gbps.pdf
25 Gb/sec across 4x10G ports on higher end but far from topped out
hardware.
further illustrating the point - 10gige ~linerate load balancing on a
singl
David Storandt wrote:
We're stuck in an engineering pickle, so some experience from this
crew would be useful in tie-breaking...
We operate a business-grade FTTx ISP with ~75 customers and 800Mbps of
Internet traffic, currently using 6509/Sup2s for core routing and port
aggregation. The MSFC2s a
2009/5/18 Adam Armstrong :
> David Storandt wrote:
>>
>> We're stuck in an engineering pickle, so some experience from this
>> crew would be useful in tie-breaking...
>>
>> We operate a business-grade FTTx ISP with ~75 customers and 800Mbps of
>> Internet traffic, currently using 6509/Sup2s for cor
Steve Dalberg wrote:
2009/5/18 Adam Armstrong :
David Storandt wrote:
We're stuck in an engineering pickle, so some experience from this
crew would be useful in tie-breaking...
We operate a business-grade FTTx ISP with ~75 customers and 800Mbps of
Internet traffic, currently using 6509/Sup2s f
le integrated on the supervisor engine freeing up slots 5/6 where
the switch fabric line cards are inserted with an MFSC2.
-Original Message-
From: Adam Armstrong [mailto:li...@memetic.org]
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 4:20 AM
To: David Storandt; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: NPE-G2 vs. Sup720-
Julio Arruda wrote:
Steve Dalberg wrote:
2009/5/18 Adam Armstrong :
David Storandt wrote:
We're stuck in an engineering pickle, so some experience from this
crew would be useful in tie-breaking...
We operate a business-grade FTTx ISP with ~75 customers and 800Mbps of
Internet traffic, current
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